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Originally Posted by Padreman

Your known as a "modder" or "creator" what was the first you made for OOTP and do you still have it?

I started out making team logos that were requested on the boards. I remember forum user "deft" had started making player photos that one could customize. I'm not sure where he got them from (remember the old red-flannel lumberjacks?)


but they were what we had before the current version of Facegen we now all enjoy. I still have all of what I created but it would be a pain to find anything in particular since its all so unorganized. The one regret I do have is that I probably mod more than I play, despite owning more than several released versions.

Here's how we got Facegen in the game.

Nine (!) years ago, a board member used a soccer website to generate faces for fictional players. Here's the thread:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-facepack.html

A project (you'll see some familiar names) came together and used the site to whip up some usable faces, and then hats and unis were photoshopped in. If you read the thread, you can see some of the early efforts, which were comical, and then some work that looked brilliant. Here's the best looking effort, in my opinion:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...tml#post950951

So, by December 2004, people could turn out decent fictional player pictures. It was not easy nor fast, but it was cool as all get out.

In the spring of 2006, two things happened, one trivial and one monumental. The trivial bit was that I got an invite from Marc Duffy to beta test OOTP 2006. The monumental part was this thread:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...iscovered.html

My favorite Canadian socialist, Layton is My Homeboy, documented what he could do with a software demo called Facegen. He whipped up a large number of useful faces in a short period of time. He posted techniques and samples. Again, it was not easy nor fast, but the quality level had gone up. Layton is My Homeboy built a tool and there was an thirty one page epic thread launched:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-facetool.html

At some point, and I don't recall when or how exactly (fall 2006...I guess), either Layton or I saw that the makers of Facegen (Singular Inversion) had listed companies on their marketing page that had bought a license to use their application. On that list was Sega. At the time, OOTP was under the SI umbrella, which in turn was owned by Sega. That led to some questions. I traded messages with Layton, basically asking "Does this mean what I think it means?", and the answer was yes.

At that point, since I was under an NDA and the guys were trying to whip the code into better shape and add marketable new features, I wrote an email to Marc Duffy. I asked if OOTP could use Facegen in a future version because it was already bought and paid for by Sega, and I added some links to what the mod community was already up to using the demo. He gave me some encouraging feedback and promised he'd investigate. A couple months later, Facegen was baked into OOTP. See

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...cetool-31.html

One of the best things about OOTP is how much of what modders whip up gets integrated into the game, and how Markus and Andreas code like crazy to support the efforts of the modder community here.