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tdmsu · 08-09-2013, 09:59 AM

Hi everyone,

First, I'd like to say how great this forum is... such a vibrant and welcoming community. I have been reading and trying to make up my mind about ootp for a few years now, and I've decided to make the jump from DMB.

A little background, then a few questions:
My friend and I have been running computer baseball leagues for over 20 years now, and we've used many programs, from MicroLeague to Tony Larussa, to DMB, and now we want to switch to OOTP.

After reading on these forums for a long time, it seems our league is a bit different from most others, and I'm not sure how to describe it. We only use retired players with stats averaged over their entire careers, but not normalized or adjusted for their eras. The players do not age or retire, and their stats stay the same. I know this is not the usual way, but it is how we've always done it, and for the sake of continuity... the teams are fictional, but based in real cities in the western hemisphere, and the players are not tied to the city in which they really played.

We decided to buy OOTP recently, and I've been putting in the players - the historical database has been invaluable - thanks to everyone involved in that project, and the jerseys - wow! I imported the players into our fictional league and used their rookie years to mitigate the OOTP aging system, then I went through and fixed some unusual stats, such as Addie Joss having a "1" for every pitch! After running a few test seasons to evaluate the settings and stats, I have a few questions:

1. It seems that OOTP changes the stats to fit eras... is there a way to turn that off, or failing that, what is the most neutral era? 1a. If we found a "neutral" era, would we have to keep resetting the game to it?

2. I turned off player development, but they are still aging and retiring (Paul O'Neill retires every year!) and their stats wane... is there a way to turn that off?

3. Is there a way to use injuries, but with much less frequency and severity? Even when turned down to the lowest setting, it is still possible for Ty Cobb to have a career ender... no good for our league.

4. Sometimes when I enter a pitcher, OOTP substitutes its own HRA for the historical one I input (especially with dead ball pitchers). I realize that this is normalizing, but is there a way to turn that off?

5. Does OOTP penalize if a player gets more AB or IP than they averaged?

6. A couple times, a player started the season exhausted, and never recovered enough to play, but did not show up as injured. This happened to Jim Rice - he got 1 AB in a season after which he hit 38 HR. Any idea what happened?

7. What kind of stamina would you give to a modern closer? Let's say, Troy Percival? OOTP gave him 14, but then he was unable to be the closer for the whole season, and ended the year with an undefined role.

Thanks for reading, for your patience, and again for this great community!

Paul

We have come such a long way...

08-09-2013, 09:59 AM	#1
tdmsu Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 44	New convert from DMB Hi everyone, First, I'd like to say how great this forum is... such a vibrant and welcoming community. I have been reading and trying to make up my mind about ootp for a few years now, and I've decided to make the jump from DMB. A little background, then a few questions: My friend and I have been running computer baseball leagues for over 20 years now, and we've used many programs, from MicroLeague to Tony Larussa, to DMB, and now we want to switch to OOTP. After reading on these forums for a long time, it seems our league is a bit different from most others, and I'm not sure how to describe it. We only use retired players with stats averaged over their entire careers, but not normalized or adjusted for their eras. The players do not age or retire, and their stats stay the same. I know this is not the usual way, but it is how we've always done it, and for the sake of continuity... the teams are fictional, but based in real cities in the western hemisphere, and the players are not tied to the city in which they really played. We decided to buy OOTP recently, and I've been putting in the players - the historical database has been invaluable - thanks to everyone involved in that project, and the jerseys - wow! I imported the players into our fictional league and used their rookie years to mitigate the OOTP aging system, then I went through and fixed some unusual stats, such as Addie Joss having a "1" for every pitch! After running a few test seasons to evaluate the settings and stats, I have a few questions: 1. It seems that OOTP changes the stats to fit eras... is there a way to turn that off, or failing that, what is the most neutral era? 1a. If we found a "neutral" era, would we have to keep resetting the game to it? 2. I turned off player development, but they are still aging and retiring (Paul O'Neill retires every year!) and their stats wane... is there a way to turn that off? 3. Is there a way to use injuries, but with much less frequency and severity? Even when turned down to the lowest setting, it is still possible for Ty Cobb to have a career ender... no good for our league. 4. Sometimes when I enter a pitcher, OOTP substitutes its own HRA for the historical one I input (especially with dead ball pitchers). I realize that this is normalizing, but is there a way to turn that off? 5. Does OOTP penalize if a player gets more AB or IP than they averaged? 6. A couple times, a player started the season exhausted, and never recovered enough to play, but did not show up as injured. This happened to Jim Rice - he got 1 AB in a season after which he hit 38 HR. Any idea what happened? 7. What kind of stamina would you give to a modern closer? Let's say, Troy Percival? OOTP gave him 14, but then he was unable to be the closer for the whole season, and ended the year with an undefined role. Thanks for reading, for your patience, and again for this great community! Paul We have come such a long way... Attached Images