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Originally Posted by ezpkns34
If you value high obp, you should probably start valuing eye more
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I do value eye, and OBP but like others have said sometimes outs can be productive and lead to misleading stats
Joe Torre said it best in his book, not quoting verbatim, leadoff guy gets a double, next batter grounds out and advances the runner, next batter grounds out and the runner scores. One guy is an RBI machine while the other gets looked at as a bum who cant hit with RISP if this gets repeated 30x per season. But its all good baseball.
It's all about relative value. in 2012 Yadier Molina posted a .373 OBP Miguel Montero posted a .391 OBP, and walked 28x more, but also struck out 75x more, so with those 75 extra balls in play Molina was able to hit more hits and more extra base hits at that. Valuing just one stat has to assume all else being equal. While I do value OBP, the guy not striking out can do a whole lot more with his at bats, even if he walks less. The only time I might value Eye over Avoid K is in my leadoff hitter who needs to get on base more than he needs to make productive AB's
Besides assuming all else is equal what player do you want
.250 AVG .370 OBP, 125k
or
.300 AVG .370 OBP, 50 k
both players have solid OBP's but assuming power/speed is equal, we know which one is more likely to be the more productive player