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Old 08-29-2012, 05:55 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by fhomess View Post
This is why CERA is supposed to be compared to other teammates. It's in the comparison that CERA becomes somewhat useful in determining whether or not the catcher is actually influencing his pitchers positively compared to his peers. Most articles I've read on the subject are hesitant to draw strong conclusions because the data isn't all that good and one season's worth of data usually isn't enough. Especially when you're looking at teammates with wildly differing playing time.
Again, what if Molina's backup has 5 appearances that month, and had a pitcher having a great day due to a weak team etc. His CERA will be greatly skewed. Same with Molina if he is in there against the top teams.

AND say Molina's personality would work with 70% of pitchers, but he has 5 of the 30%. He will not be effective. It's all relative. Much like a catcher's arm. If a C is known for his arm, his CS% will not reflect that, because speedsters will not test him, only taking the high % SB attempt.

It's so complicated that trying to put it in a neat little formula is a incredulous

I am not an enemy of advanced metrics, but scouting,experience must not be totally dismissed in favor of them. Absolutes are never a good thing. For catchers, trust the manager and players. When they say a catcher is a good catcher in loud majority then give them the benefit of the doubt
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