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Old 08-25-2012, 04:22 PM   #205
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Originally Posted by cockypop View Post
There are many other things that have come up in this thread, but I believe there is at least one core game mechanical issue as follows:

Current Situation:
When a team submits an offer to a free agent that is rejected as not being high enough, that offer effectively dissapears and is never considered again. Even when the player eventually drops their demands low enough that the offer should be considered, it is as if that offer never existed or was never made. The player does not consider that offer even if it would be the best one for them.

Desired Situation:
Once a free agent's demands drop to a level where a previous offer *that has not been withdrawn* is suddenly viable the player takes that offer into consideration, along with any new offers that are being made.

Why This is an Issue:
It is not an issue for anyone who sims a day at a time, because the player will let the original bidding owner know that he is 'back in play' so to speak when he receives an offer from someone else that he will consider. At that point the original bidding owner can re-submit his original offer now that it falls within the players demands.

However for online leagues where simming a day at a time in the offseason is not practical, the repsonse occurs mid sim and the original bidding owner has no opportunity to respond before the new (and often lower) offer is accepted by the player.

Short Version:
If I make an offer to a free agent that is rejected for being too low, unless I actively withdraw it it should never be taken off the table. The current game mechanics don't behave this way.

And by implementing a system like this you're forcing GM's to tie up money that could be used elsewhere while the player is deciding.

If my offer is too low, then too bad, it comes off the table. I have no desire whatsoever to see that offer left on the table, because if it is, then that money is lost to me if I decide to go after another FA. I do not want to have to hit the "withdraw" button either, because by doing that the player gets insulted and will no longer talk to me, even if/when his demands drop.

If he lowers his demands later on, then the GM can re-submit if he still so desires.

The excuse that OOTP does not remember your offers is lame, sorry. It is your responsibility as GM to know what offers you made, not the games to remember them all. I can just see a real life GM walking in to the owners office and saying geee, I forgot what offers I made previously. I'm sure that GM would be joining the unemployment line in the very near future. If you want to be a GM, then take on the full responsibilities and keep a record of who you offer what. The option is in the game to keep notes, use that option. Or write it down on a piece of paper.
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