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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY
OK, well if some players end up not signing at all, that is a problem to a certain extent. As for one GM paying significantly more than other GMs are willing to offer, it's rare, but it happens. See Oliver Perez's four-year deal with the Mets that was signed when every other GM and lots of fans knew the Mets were bidding against themselves for Perez.
As for paying free agents what the market things they're worth, who sets the market other than GMs? So if the GMs only want to pay star players $3M a year in a certain offseason, even though comparable players under contract are making $10M per season, then isn't that the GMs colluding to set the market too low?
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Nobody is talking about trying to lowball legitimate star players. The example Buane keeps giving you (
and people here keep ignoring) is a good but not star first baseman asking for more money than similar free agents have ever made.
We're trying to figure out why, for example, a 37 year old batter who had one good but not great season before free agency would come out of the gate demanding $18MM when his previous salaries have been: 8MM, 6MM, 7MM, 8MM in the previous 4 seasons. In real life, if a person was asking for 18MM in every free agency and ended up making 1/3 of that asking price every year, you'd think the logical thing would be to augment their original demand so they'd end up with more money or maybe a multi-year deal. That's
reality.
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Originally Posted by OutS|der
The current system is realistic how is that wrong? The player makes a demand then ethier signs for what he is willing to accept at that point in time or he sits. Just like how it works in RL. the player is demanding what they think the market is, be it from what other comparable players are making or because they see everyone has boatloads of cash to spend.
Your suggestion The owners can offer whatever they want even if it's a super low offer and that player has to take it or is forced to take it.
So the league dictates the salary and not the market.
Now they league should be able to dictate the market up to a point and it should take years for the market to catch up, start signing players to your low salaries and once the majority of players are at that salary base then they should start demanding the same.
Couldn't you just edit the players contracts to suit your leagues needs?
Don't want to sign that player what he think's he is worth then edit him onto whatever team you want at whatever low offer you like.
Problem solved without changing the whole system so suit your leagues needs.
I'm sorry but under the current system is how it does and should work. Simple as that, ethier accept it or keep banging your head against the wall. Won't change how the system works, nor should it.
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Because
in reality, baseball players rarely sit out rather than accept a reasonable offer. In major league baseball, it happens every few years with a veteran that teams don't want to take a risk on until they're backed into a corner. In this scenario, it's incredibly wide-spread.