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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman
Well there is not much to discuss if you aren't going read the study. It pretty much says the exact opposite of what you just said. We can continue to discuss this once you have read it.
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Do you want to discuss statistics spit out by a computer or do want to discuss the actual playing of the game of baseball, because that's two different things.
Never mind what McCracken or any other statistician says in their studies. Make the argument based on the
playing of the game to me that the skill of the best pitchers in baseball past and present had no bearing on the outcome of an at bat when you consider that even with the top strike out pitchers the ball is put in play more than twice as often as not. Let's talk the actual pitcher/batter confrontation and what his going through the mind of both. Let's ask actual batters if the pitcher's skill had any bearing on whether or not they could make
solid contact for hits as oppose to hitting one off the end of the bat for an easy fly out.
And if you agree that Maddux or anyone else isn't in the HOF on dumb luck 78% of the time, why is he there and not someone else? If the skill of the best pitchers had no bearing over the outcome of an at bat when the ball was put in play, which is the overwhelming majority of at bats, how did they do so well? And don't tell me about someone's statistical study. Speak to me as someone who either had to try to get a lineup out three times a game, or someone who was in a lineup trying to get a base hit three times a game.