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Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave
But a good pitcher can control how well a ball is put in play. Good pitchers get hitters to swing badly by changing speeds and location. Bad swings mean pop ups and grounders which turn into outs. Sure, there will be those that fall in, but by in large if hitters don't get good swings they don't get hits.
Your point about double plays reinforces the notion that what is bad for a hitter is good for a hitter. Double play: Bad for hitter therefore good for a pitcher. In that situation the strike out is bad for the pitcher and "good" (insofar as only one out was recorded) for the hitter.
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This has been debated to absolute death in the baseball community and on these boards.
I could write an impassioned debate but it simply suffices to say that what you think you know is not correct and has been proven as such.
As Jax alluded, Voros McCracken discovered this 13 years ago and it has been tested dozens of times by other researchers and proven and sharpened.
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I would also go on and say if you do not believe in the therory then you should probably stop playing OOTP.
Markus included DIPS into the core engine of OOTP way back in version 6.
You seem to have an interest in the subject but are asserting a lot of things that have a long history of having already being proven. I would suggest subscriptions to sites like Baseball Prospectus and Baseball America where you can find a wealth of information about advanced statistics if you are willing to put in the time.