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Dwolfson20 · 06-14-2003, 03:06 AM

In honor of my solo league's 40th anniversary, I thought I would name the top ten players in league history. So rather than just making a list myself, I will present the relevant information here and see how you all would rate them. I started by picking eight players that I think have a viable claim to the top spot, and I wrote some bios for them and took screenshots of their career stats, which you can see below. Take a look, and then pick the player that you think is the league's best ever. After there's a winner, I'll replace him with another player, and then make another poll to choose the second-best of all time, and so on until the list is complete. I think it turned out well in that there are some tough pitcher vs. hitter decisions and some tough career vs. peak decisions. One note: Gold Gloves were not awarded until 2026 (due to the switch to OOTP 5). Also, sorry for the current hard-to-read stats -- I am working on finding a better way to post them. Finally, please feel free to add comments and discussion.

Without further ado, here are the players!

Vladimir Guerrero – RF – (1996 to 2014)

Bad Vlad was traded to St. Louis at the deadline in the league’s first year, and he proceeded to set the NL’s first hits record with 204. After two years with the Cardinals, they chose not resign Guerrero, and the Braves picked him up in free agency for a cool $11.5 million per year. Vlad’s first year in Atlanta was a good one; he set NL records with 59 home runs and 171 RBI and took home his first of many MVP awards. Perhaps the only downside of his time spent with the Braves is that he could not bring them back to the World Series. In 2005, he won his second MVP, but Atlanta apparently wasn’t happy with his failure to run for mayor of the city, because there’s no other explanation for trading him to Texas at the 2006 deadline in a blockbuster deal that brought them Alex Rodriguez, to their credit. Vlad decided to show the Braves that he deserved to stay, by setting the AL record for hits in his very first year on the Junior Circuit, becoming the first player to hold the single-season hits record in both leagues. Oh, and he also won the MVP again. On May 10, 2007, Guerrero stroked his 2000th career hit at the tender age of 31. He made the All-Star game again, as he had in each of the league’s first six years. Vlad capped off the year with his usual season-ending ritual by winning the MVP. 2008 was a pretty non-descript year for Guerrero; he only hit 37 home runs, but he did win his fourth straight MVP and hit his 500th career home run. The next year was a sad one for Vlad, as he won what would be the last MVP of his career, and his unprecedented fifth consecutive award. Finally, on May 9 of 2012, Guerrero stepped to the plate against Robert Avarette of the Blue Jays and knocked out his 3000th career hit. In 2013, Vlad did not make the All-Star team, the first such game to take place without him in the league’s history. With nothing left to prove, Guerrero retired in 2015 and was promptly elected unanimously to the Hall of Fame. Not much later, the MVP Award was renamed the Vladimir Guerrero Award.

Career Accomplishments

7 MVP Awards (5 consecutive)
Single season AL hit record
Single season NL hit, home run and RBI records (latter still stands)
12 All Star appearances
14 Player of the Week Awards
10 Batter of the Month Awards
16th all time in batting average
8th all time in hits
9th all time in home runs
4th all time in RBI
2nd all time in triples
19th all time in runs

Career Stats

PHP Code:


			
Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams 

1996 9 27 5 0 0 1 1 2 0 3 0 0 .185 .185 .296 .481 MON 

1997 90 325 98 22 2 11 40 44 19 39 3 4 .302 .340 .483 .823 MON 

1998 159 623 202 37 7 38 109 108 42 95 11 9 .324 .367 .589 .956 MON 

1999 160 610 193 37 5 42 131 102 55 62 14 7 .316 .373 .600 .973 MON 

2000 154 571 197 28 11 44 123 101 58 74 9 10 .345 .405 .664 1.069 MON 

2001 158 627 204 26 11 47 140 112 48 79 2 7 .325 .373 .627 1.000 MON,NL STL 

2002 161 653 215 25 12 47 130 131 46 66 1 0 .329 .373 .620 .994 STL,NL 

2003 159 620 207 24 14 59 171 139 55 64 3 2 .334 .388 .703 1.091 ATL,NL 

2004 160 628 195 22 9 42 112 112 58 76 1 2 .311 .369 .575 .944 ATL,NL 

2005 160 624 211 22 16 39 129 124 47 72 3 0 .338 .385 .612 .997 ATL,NL 

2006 161 644 226 32 13 41 133 128 55 79 2 0 .351 .402 .632 1.034 ATL,NL TEX 

2007 159 661 230 28 14 53 139 123 37 86 3 0 .348 .383 .673 1.056 TEX,AL 

2008 158 625 205 30 21 37 124 91 39 76 1 0 .328 .367 .621 .988 TEX,AL 

2009 159 651 225 26 21 42 141 111 23 93 2 0 .346 .368 .644 1.012 TEX,AL 

2010 161 638 170 28 21 30 101 94 32 100 2 0 .266 .301 .517 .819 TEX,AL 

2011 160 647 181 18 23 28 105 95 35 97 0 1 .280 .317 .509 .825 TEX,AL 

2012 158 668 188 19 10 32 97 103 22 131 7 1 .281 .304 .484 .788 TEX,AL 

2013 155 577 161 15 8 29 87 78 9 119 0 1 .279 .290 .484 .774 TEX 

2014 10 16 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 .188 .188 .188 .375 TEX 

Total 2651 10435 3316 439 218 662 2013 1798 680 1415 64 44 .318 .360 .592 .951

06-14-2003, 03:06 AM	#1
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	All-Time Top Ten Players: #1 In honor of my solo league's 40th anniversary, I thought I would name the top ten players in league history. So rather than just making a list myself, I will present the relevant information here and see how you all would rate them. I started by picking eight players that I think have a viable claim to the top spot, and I wrote some bios for them and took screenshots of their career stats, which you can see below. Take a look, and then pick the player that you think is the league's best ever. After there's a winner, I'll replace him with another player, and then make another poll to choose the second-best of all time, and so on until the list is complete. I think it turned out well in that there are some tough pitcher vs. hitter decisions and some tough career vs. peak decisions. One note: Gold Gloves were not awarded until 2026 (due to the switch to OOTP 5). Also, sorry for the current hard-to-read stats -- I am working on finding a better way to post them. Finally, please feel free to add comments and discussion. Without further ado, here are the players! Vladimir Guerrero – RF – (1996 to 2014) Bad Vlad was traded to St. Louis at the deadline in the league’s first year, and he proceeded to set the NL’s first hits record with 204. After two years with the Cardinals, they chose not resign Guerrero, and the Braves picked him up in free agency for a cool $11.5 million per year. Vlad’s first year in Atlanta was a good one; he set NL records with 59 home runs and 171 RBI and took home his first of many MVP awards. Perhaps the only downside of his time spent with the Braves is that he could not bring them back to the World Series. In 2005, he won his second MVP, but Atlanta apparently wasn’t happy with his failure to run for mayor of the city, because there’s no other explanation for trading him to Texas at the 2006 deadline in a blockbuster deal that brought them Alex Rodriguez, to their credit. Vlad decided to show the Braves that he deserved to stay, by setting the AL record for hits in his very first year on the Junior Circuit, becoming the first player to hold the single-season hits record in both leagues. Oh, and he also won the MVP again. On May 10, 2007, Guerrero stroked his 2000th career hit at the tender age of 31. He made the All-Star game again, as he had in each of the league’s first six years. Vlad capped off the year with his usual season-ending ritual by winning the MVP. 2008 was a pretty non-descript year for Guerrero; he only hit 37 home runs, but he did win his fourth straight MVP and hit his 500th career home run. The next year was a sad one for Vlad, as he won what would be the last MVP of his career, and his unprecedented fifth consecutive award. Finally, on May 9 of 2012, Guerrero stepped to the plate against Robert Avarette of the Blue Jays and knocked out his 3000th career hit. In 2013, Vlad did not make the All-Star team, the first such game to take place without him in the league’s history. With nothing left to prove, Guerrero retired in 2015 and was promptly elected unanimously to the Hall of Fame. Not much later, the MVP Award was renamed the Vladimir Guerrero Award. Career Accomplishments 7 MVP Awards (5 consecutive) Single season AL hit record Single season NL hit, home run and RBI records (latter still stands) 12 All Star appearances 14 Player of the Week Awards 10 Batter of the Month Awards 16th all time in batting average 8th all time in hits 9th all time in home runs 4th all time in RBI 2nd all time in triples 19th all time in runs Career Stats PHP Code: Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams 1996 9 27 5 0 0 1 1 2 0 3 0 0 .185 .185 .296 .481 MON 1997 90 325 98 22 2 11 40 44 19 39 3 4 .302 .340 .483 .823 MON 1998 159 623 202 37 7 38 109 108 42 95 11 9 .324 .367 .589 .956 MON 1999 160 610 193 37 5 42 131 102 55 62 14 7 .316 .373 .600 .973 MON 2000 154 571 197 28 11 44 123 101 58 74 9 10 .345 .405 .664 1.069 MON 2001 158 627 204 26 11 47 140 112 48 79 2 7 .325 .373 .627 1.000 MON,NL STL 2002 161 653 215 25 12 47 130 131 46 66 1 0 .329 .373 .620 .994 STL,NL 2003 159 620 207 24 14 59 171 139 55 64 3 2 .334 .388 .703 1.091 ATL,NL 2004 160 628 195 22 9 42 112 112 58 76 1 2 .311 .369 .575 .944 ATL,NL 2005 160 624 211 22 16 39 129 124 47 72 3 0 .338 .385 .612 .997 ATL,NL 2006 161 644 226 32 13 41 133 128 55 79 2 0 .351 .402 .632 1.034 ATL,NL TEX 2007 159 661 230 28 14 53 139 123 37 86 3 0 .348 .383 .673 1.056 TEX,AL 2008 158 625 205 30 21 37 124 91 39 76 1 0 .328 .367 .621 .988 TEX,AL 2009 159 651 225 26 21 42 141 111 23 93 2 0 .346 .368 .644 1.012 TEX,AL 2010 161 638 170 28 21 30 101 94 32 100 2 0 .266 .301 .517 .819 TEX,AL 2011 160 647 181 18 23 28 105 95 35 97 0 1 .280 .317 .509 .825 TEX,AL 2012 158 668 188 19 10 32 97 103 22 131 7 1 .281 .304 .484 .788 TEX,AL 2013 155 577 161 15 8 29 87 78 9 119 0 1 .279 .290 .484 .774 TEX 2014 10 16 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 .188 .188 .188 .375 TEX Total 2651 10435 3316 439 218 662 2013 1798 680 1415 64 44 .318 .360 .592 .951 __________________ Last edited by Dwolfson20; 06-14-2003 at 03:57 AM.