[Dutch Alexander]

Originally Posted by DCG12

The problem is batting average. Every league I have tested my team always hits below .190. Last year in MLB both AL and, more importantly, NL teams both hit .214.
In the league I am playing right now which is fictional and is half way through the season PH's are hitting .136 and pitchers are hitting .186 but pitchers have struck out far more than PH have. In the NL last year PH's struckout about 28% of the time. In my league they are currently striking out @ just under 30% so not bad.
The other issue is power hitting. PH's when they do get hits for human teams don't hit doubles or HR's like they should. There were 70 PH HR's in the NL last year in 3645 AB's. In my test league I have never had more than 2 Hr's in a season. Doubles are just as bad.
Ok as to Markus. I don't think we have gotten across to him yet that it is a playing out vs. simming issue. In a recent thread he made the comment that in his test sim batting averages looked ok and that is the problem, if you sim or look at teams that the human doesn't control the numbers look acceptable.
I will post in the beta forum and see if I can get him to revisit this issue. I will point him to this thread also.

Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

I did some extensive testing in 12, and found compelling evidence, but was never sure when "enough" was enough for the sample size crowd, and just quit. Changed my leagues to the unbaseball travesty the DH, and moved on.

Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

FWIW, I did extensive testing and it "seemed" as though the problem was not only limited to those playing out games, and not only limited to the human player, but it was also limited to the human player pinch hitting FOR THE PITCHER.
For some reason pinch hitting for position players didn't show the same dreadful downfall.

Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

By the way Dutch Alexander, I've played out every inning of every game 1-pitch mode of OVER FIFTY seasons. And it was like this EVERY TIME. But I didn't do an almanac or encylopedia or whatever it's called so of course no one believes it.

Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

I don't know how many times you have to have a coin flipped come up heads before you think something is wrong, but over 50 has to get you at least thinking. I remember I wasn't last in PH average every one of those 50 years but I was in the bottom half every one of those 50 years. And I can guarantee you I had a better bench than most of the AI teams.
But like I said, this one is just too big to admit to. Because if it's admitted that results are figured differently for playing out and simming, there will be an unroar of unhappy customers.

Well, from the data I provided and the reactions of some other users I think it has become clear beyond any reasonable doubt that there is an issue. I guess for the moment I've said all there is to say about it. Let's hope it gets fixed.