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Originally Posted by Bluenoser
Please explain this "mold" you're talking about. Is this official from Markus or just what you beleive occurs? I'd seriously like to know more about it.
I'm also curious as to why you feel the initial pool should be made up the same as the ensuing draft pools? I'm being sincere with my questions, do you not believe that when a league starts there should be a large mix of players? When real baseball started, it didn't start with all rookies per se. You had a lot of players who already had a lot of experience. Sure, they were "rookies" to the league, but certainly not to the game. Please explain.
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Point 1) As I have said (or at least tried to) this is NOT an opinion or a belief. It is a fact. (You say you don't want to argue the point, but refuse to acknowledge my position as anything more than an opinion, which, to me, is arguing (and the worst sort of arguing where the antagonist refuses to acknowledge the contest).
Point 2) You are missing the point. I do not want, nor should anyone desire, to have an initial pool of all 23 year old players of roughly the same ability. I want diversity and I want 30+ year old players from the get go. The point is that I want the players I get in year one of the league to be the same (as a group, not individually) as I get in year 50 and year 100 and on and on for infinity. I want the 19 year olds in my initial pool to be similar to 19 year olds that appear in year 50. This is not the case with the default arrangements, so I sim 30 years, delete the history and start there with a group of players who have all been created from the same mold. In my first year of a league, there is a wide diversity of players from very young to very old, from good to bad. You said we should not compare apples to oranges (which is silly, 'cause how else can you tell them apart?) but when you create a league under the default arrangements you are populating your league with apples and then drafting oranges every year from there on out. I just prefer to start with the oranges in the first place.
I just created a league to show you the stats:
Initial Pool (vsRHP Actual ratings (not scout assesments):
Avg. Power:
All 20 yr. old hitters: 30.7
Top 5 20 yr. old: 80.0
Same League 5 years later:
Avg. Power:
All 20 yr. old hitters: 19.7
Top 5 20 yr. old: 55.4
As you can clearly see, the initial pool of 20 year olds have MUCH higher power than the 20 year olds of five years later.
One other point to make:
It is NOT that the initial league creation does a poor job of making players. It just doesn't make them the same as the ammy draft does. Personally, I think the ammy draft ought to create more young players who can play in the majors than it does. I use feeder leagues and the discrepancy in talent is even greater in this case. Personally I think ALL 18 and 19 year old players who will eventually be of major league caliber OUGHT to be able to play in the big leagues immediately and hit higher than .100.