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I do agree that it is extremely hard to rate a player on the defensive side on the game. But another point is I think that's what makes this game great in general is the heated discussion that it can cause. And Joe's shortstop during alot of the Big Red Machine years was Davey Concepcion. And it could be the combination of the two working together is what made them look great to the coaches and scouts. I remember Barry Larkin talking on MLB network about how having consistency in your middle infield was the key to great defense, because the more guys play together the learn where the other guys is going to be around the bag and can make up for some of your mistakes. But really good discussion.
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