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Old 06-16-2011, 08:46 PM   #143
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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift View Post
I'll take "false dilemmas" for $500, Alex.

The discussion is not whether to make the game basic and adding in phases of the moon. That's a downright absurd argument. The question is whether or not to add things which have not been quantified but which baseball people believe does exist. Rust is really IMO way over at the "it probably exists" end of the spectrum, really. The only thing I can think of which is further to the leftward "documented to be real" end of this spectrum is streakiness/slumpiness, which has been proven to exist in baseball by Fangraphs and the Curve Ball book. Coaches having an effect, clutch hitting (which is also in the game), morale, and so on are further over to the right end, and stuff like phases of the moon are so far over to the right as to not even be in this conversation.
I was not suggesting that rust should not be in the game; I was merely saying that the argument that "if coaches, managers and players think it's there, then it's there" is silly. I was also arguing that leaving things out that may not exist doesn't make OOTP a "dry" game.
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