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mking55 · 04-20-2010, 06:10 PM

Trading, trading, trading. The bane of all simulation games. I have my settings on trading difficulty very hard and preference on neutral. I've never been impressed by the trading in OOTP and have found it seriously flawed. That's a big problem for me because my favourite part of the game is trading.

I was hoping OOTP11 would be different. It's not.

I started my league (historical) in 1939 with the Philadelphia A's. You can't get much lower than that unless you're the Brownies, but who wants to lead a team of 8 year old girls to the pennant (although that would be the ultimate challenge).

The 1st season the only player of note I traded for was Bobby Doerr who could be had from the Red Sox along with Charlie Wagner for Lou Finney, Fred Chapman, Dario Lodigiani and Jim Shelley. I guess we know who won that trade.

We finished 30 games out of first which gave us the 5th pick in the draft and we scored Dom Dimaggio and Marty Marion. We traded for Mel Ott and some nobodies for some nobodies from us. We traded for some guy named Ted Williams and needless to say, we didn't give up equal value since it's impossible (or near impossible) to give up equal value for Ted Williams. We signed Phil Cavarretta as a free agent and we traded for some punk kid named Bob Feller. We finished 1 game behind the Yankees.

Since then we've won 4 pennants in a row and 3 World Series. Our best season we were 118-36. The two biggest pitchers we've traded for are Howie Pollet and Dizzy Trout. We've obtained Rudy York, Ken Keltner, Lou Boudreau, Pete Reiser, Tommy Henrich, Stan Musial, Hank Greenberg, and Phil Rizzuto through trades among others who have come and gone.

So I would have to say it's still too easy to trade and win. I know I could have house rules (and for those who like them, there's nothing wrong with them), but I don't want to have house rules. I bought the game to play as purchased, not to police myself.

I know I have an advantage knowing who these players are, but the AI knows their ages and their ratings. I still have the advantage.

The trading is weak (in my opinion). Very hard shouldn't allow me to get Ted Williams except if I've kidnapped your children and am holding a gun to their heads.

I play another baseball simulation too that sort of "cheats" when it comes to trades. I think it does some sort of look-ahead (or stores on import) so it is almost impossible to get a future HOF player or any of the greats. You have to give up equal value to get these guys unless they're old and feeble and then who wants them.

Maybe OOTP12 will have better trading. I know it's hard to program this. It's probably the hardest thing (or at least one of the hardest things) to do for a game like this. I respect the effort. However, the results appear to be a failure.

04-20-2010, 06:10 PM	#16
mking55 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boading, China Posts: 1,249	Trading, trading, trading. The bane of all simulation games. I have my settings on trading difficulty very hard and preference on neutral. I've never been impressed by the trading in OOTP and have found it seriously flawed. That's a big problem for me because my favourite part of the game is trading. I was hoping OOTP11 would be different. It's not. I started my league (historical) in 1939 with the Philadelphia A's. You can't get much lower than that unless you're the Brownies, but who wants to lead a team of 8 year old girls to the pennant (although that would be the ultimate challenge). The 1st season the only player of note I traded for was Bobby Doerr who could be had from the Red Sox along with Charlie Wagner for Lou Finney, Fred Chapman, Dario Lodigiani and Jim Shelley. I guess we know who won that trade. We finished 30 games out of first which gave us the 5th pick in the draft and we scored Dom Dimaggio and Marty Marion. We traded for Mel Ott and some nobodies for some nobodies from us. We traded for some guy named Ted Williams and needless to say, we didn't give up equal value since it's impossible (or near impossible) to give up equal value for Ted Williams. We signed Phil Cavarretta as a free agent and we traded for some punk kid named Bob Feller. We finished 1 game behind the Yankees. Since then we've won 4 pennants in a row and 3 World Series. Our best season we were 118-36. The two biggest pitchers we've traded for are Howie Pollet and Dizzy Trout. We've obtained Rudy York, Ken Keltner, Lou Boudreau, Pete Reiser, Tommy Henrich, Stan Musial, Hank Greenberg, and Phil Rizzuto through trades among others who have come and gone. So I would have to say it's still too easy to trade and win. I know I could have house rules (and for those who like them, there's nothing wrong with them), but I don't want to have house rules. I bought the game to play as purchased, not to police myself. I know I have an advantage knowing who these players are, but the AI knows their ages and their ratings. I still have the advantage. The trading is weak (in my opinion). Very hard shouldn't allow me to get Ted Williams except if I've kidnapped your children and am holding a gun to their heads. I play another baseball simulation too that sort of "cheats" when it comes to trades. I think it does some sort of look-ahead (or stores on import) so it is almost impossible to get a future HOF player or any of the greats. You have to give up equal value to get these guys unless they're old and feeble and then who wants them. Maybe OOTP12 will have better trading. I know it's hard to program this. It's probably the hardest thing (or at least one of the hardest things) to do for a game like this. I respect the effort. However, the results appear to be a failure.