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Old 02-19-2010, 09:16 PM   #7
JTSMOOTH
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I guess I don't care about Rookie League and S-A record quite as much as you, as I'd much rather have a realistic environment than worry about whether my S-A record of 18 HR was broken by 2 HR because the game has evolved. Plus if the records were set in a less realistic environment, that bothers me even less.

Nothing wrong with either styles of play, I understand your point about any change, regardless of good or bad will affect your records at the low levels of the minors, but again personally I'd much rather have realistic results at the low levels for the new draftees rather than having the majority of the top picks hit a buck fifty and look lost in their first season of pro ball.

Not often you hear a "stat geek" complain about more realistic results.

If your really overly concerned about your low level minor league records, you could always run a few test leagues to find settings you like that will not tarnish your Rookie A ball records.

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Originally Posted by yajeflow View Post
simple. what we have now is what it is. good or bad, the stats were achieved using a system that produced them. so if there is a change - good or bad - the results will be different. this taints any mixing of data. think of it like genetically-modified food. GM corn ain't corn. it is GM corn.

okay, maybe the analogy stunk. how about this actual stuff:
our single-A record for homers is 18. that seems low, and it is on the low side. the parameters used are .960 for hits, .640 for HR, and .296 for BABIP. the SABRmetric player creation modifier used for homers is .450. in our league, to maintain pure stat performances, these will never change.

so now comes along a different and 'improved' system that would make for more 'realistic' numbers. maybe all of these parameters would need to be changed to some other figures. or maybe not. regardless, the results will be different. the stats created will no longer be pure. if a player under this new system hits 20 homers, would it be a 'real' 20 homers, or would it just be because some computer modification occurred? the fact that it might be BETTER is irrelevant. the fact that it is DIFFERENT renders it all pointless.

obviously, if you don't care about your league's history so much, or if you are starting a fresh league, chances are that it will be better. but i am a stat geek, period. if the stats don't matter, then i have zero interest in it. i care far less about winning titles or stuff like that. i demand a pure stat environment where everything is on equal footing.

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