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Old 08-30-2009, 01:18 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange View Post
The same questions arise when using U.S. census data. You have the population of the city/town proper, and you have the population of the metropolitan/micropolitan statistical area. For example, San Francisco and Oakland may be separate cities, but the U.S. Census Bureau considers them part of the same metropolitan statistical area due to the degree of economic and social integration between the two.

What ultimately matters is the area population rather than the population of the city/town proper. Ideally, places could have two population counts listed: one for the core city/town, and the other for the area.
I agree with you, especially when it comes to determining locations for teams. Metropolitan areas are MUCH more important than the city proper. Perfect example: El Paso, Texas is one of the 20 largest cities in the US. However, it only ranks in the top 75 or so in terms of metro area, since it's basically surrounded by desert and very few suburbs on the US side. And since Juarez in Mexico isn't counted by the Census Bureau, it has a very low population outside its urban core.

Now, when it comes to player origins, I can see it both ways. Honestly, if a player is from suburban Milwaukee, you typically won't hear anyone describe him as being from "South Milwaukee Heights". He's just from "Milwaukee". Of course, if you're from, say, the Nashville area and you read that so-and-so is from "Paradise Valley Estates", you might know that to be an affluent area and make certain assumptions about his background. So if you're someone like me who really wants to imagine his fictional players are real people, distinguishing between various suburbs may add to the realism.

And that's why I do wish OOTP allowed for a more in-depth customization. (I'd like players to have their birthplace AND their current hometown listed. Birthplace is admittedly useful in determing factors like name and ethnicity, but their current hometown would be a more realistic criterion to use for free agency.) Hopefully, Markus will consider expanding the customization possibilities of the peripheral aspects of the game in future versions.

For now, though, I'm most interested in continuity. So if it's determined that Mississauga is the administrative equivalent to Mesa and York is the equivalent to Hollywood. I'd like to see that reflected in the revised database, with Mississauga a separate entry and York not.
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