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Originally Posted by remington
I just saw the subject of this thread and it peaked my interest.
I currently run three leagues. One I created on my own, one I co-created with another person, and one I took over from the league's third commish and have been running for 11 seasons. As a commissioner, your question actually is a little disturbing.
What you are implying is the ability to crack league passwords. While there are many hackers around, openly admitting you are one of them automatically puts you on the list of people I don't want in my league. Why? Simply put, what is to prevent you from cracking my active league's password, then modifying your players so that your team is the best team in the league? Why would you want to offer a service (or tool) that hacks league passwords? Sounds to me like you are encouraging cheating and removing the enjoyment aspect of running online leagues, to be honest. Additionally, finding out if the league is defunct or not is difficult.
I believe that a league is owned by its creator(s) and that they turn over the league to a commissioner, that commissioner becomes the owner, kind of like selling a car. Now if a commish decides to shut down the league, s/he *should* contact the creator(s) to see if they want a copy of the league file, but I don't know that they are obligated to, since they've put in some level of time and effort and likely money into supporting it for however long. I don't believe the password should be shared outside of that tiny group of people, UNLESS they SPECIFICALLY want to share it with someone else.
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I think you are being a little bit overly reactionary to him with your post. I don't in any way think that he was wanting to encourage cheating or hacking or any such thing. I think he was asking, as an OOTP forum moderator, if the OOTP forums should offer this type of service for defunct leagues or not. Quite a bit different in my mind then what you are suggesting.
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Simply put, what is to prevent you from cracking my active league's password, then modifying your players so that your team is the best team in the league?
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I could be wrong on this, but I don't believe the team exports have the ability to modify how good or bad a player is. So say if someone did hack the league file and modify it, they still have to figure out how to replace the commissioner's file on their system with the edited data. I guess that would be possible if the commissioner always downloads the league file from the website as well, but I don't fully see the point in that (unless you change systems alot), and that is not something that I do in the leagues I commish. So just leaving this at that since it is pretty far off of topic from this thread's intentions...
Back on topic, I also agree that I don't think it is appropriate to open up defunct league passwords without the commissioner's approval ahead of time. Considering the amount of time and years that many have put in to creating a universe, I don't feel that it is right to take it away even if they have ended the league. (I know many leagues however that ended and had no problem with giving out the league file to members to play with solo after it shut down however. I just think it is their decision, not anyone else.)