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wish7694 · 08-02-2009, 12:44 AM

I tire of this, it is you who is reading things into the plain language of the CBA that are not there,

Of course Jiminezwas being considered for the ML roster, that is why the CBA is written as such, to prevent such a player from being optioned to the minors when he is competing for a major league spot.

I have provided list after list and link after link to support my position, you have just asserted I am incorrect with NO SUPPORT for your position.

If your position was in fact the policy, the MANY players in Cesar's position would be optioned rather than placed on the ML DL.

OK, one more example, Fernando Perez from the Rays:

Here is the article on him being in spring training and competing for a spot but only having a "remote chance" of making the team

Rays feel Perez on verge of stardom | raysbaseball.com: News

Here is a link to an article discussing his injury

Perez suffers dislocation of left wrist | raysbaseball.com: News

Here is the link showing that he was placed on the ML DL at the start of the season

Transactions | raysbaseball.com: Team

Now, you can either say the Rays did this because the CBA says that this player (if he is to be placed on the DL) has to be placed on the ML DL since he was with the ML team and had service time the previous year.

Or you can try to argue that the Rays (a team notorious for delaying service time for their players) decided to put him on their ML DL and give him service time out of the kindness of their hearts.

And no, it was not done just to clear a spot on their 40 man roster. Why? Because they could have put him on the minor league 60 day DL to accomplish the same thing, but they did not because they COULD NOT option him to the minors based on the CBA language.

I will let others judge who has the better of this argument.

08-02-2009, 12:44 AM	#20
wish7694 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 125	I tire of this, it is you who is reading things into the plain language of the CBA that are not there, Of course Jiminezwas being considered for the ML roster, that is why the CBA is written as such, to prevent such a player from being optioned to the minors when he is competing for a major league spot. I have provided list after list and link after link to support my position, you have just asserted I am incorrect with NO SUPPORT for your position. If your position was in fact the policy, the MANY players in Cesar's position would be optioned rather than placed on the ML DL. OK, one more example, Fernando Perez from the Rays: Here is the article on him being in spring training and competing for a spot but only having a "remote chance" of making the team Rays feel Perez on verge of stardom \| raysbaseball.com: News Here is a link to an article discussing his injury Perez suffers dislocation of left wrist \| raysbaseball.com: News Here is the link showing that he was placed on the ML DL at the start of the season Transactions \| raysbaseball.com: Team Now, you can either say the Rays did this because the CBA says that this player (if he is to be placed on the DL) has to be placed on the ML DL since he was with the ML team and had service time the previous year. Or you can try to argue that the Rays (a team notorious for delaying service time for their players) decided to put him on their ML DL and give him service time out of the kindness of their hearts. And no, it was not done just to clear a spot on their 40 man roster. Why? Because they could have put him on the minor league 60 day DL to accomplish the same thing, but they did not because they COULD NOT option him to the minors based on the CBA language. I will let others judge who has the better of this argument.