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Old 08-01-2009, 04:43 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by wish7694 View Post
What the CBA section I referance above shows is that it is ALSO NOT ALLOWED to send an injured player to the minors during spring training unless a very specific set of circumstances is met.
That is where we disagree. You believe the provisions apply to players NOT on the DL but who are injured; I think it pretty clear the entirety of the section in question only applies to players actually ON the Major League DL.

And here's why I think that: note the title of Article XIX (C). It says (emphasis added): "Disabled List - Assignment to Minor League Club". It doesn't say "Injured Player - Assignment to Minor League Club"; it specifically says Disabled List. It is therefore reasonable to conclude that the totality of Article XIX (C) only refers to players actually ON the Major League DL. Thus, only players ON the DL with less than three years of service, no prior career outrights, no major league service the prior season, and who are not Rule 5 draftees can be assigned to the minors, provided its not more than 15 days before the start of the regular season. Any other player on the DL cannot be assigned to the minor leagues whatsoever.

In any case, I'm going to ask the fellow I know about it, because he should be able to offer a definitive, detailed answer.


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He was selected in the rule V draft, so according the the CBA above he had to be put on the ML DL.
No player "has" to be put on the DL; a club can elect to keep an injured player sitting on the bench if it wants. Of course, in doing so, it's basically paying him to not play when it could put him on the DL, which, while still having to pay the player, at least lets the club bring in a replacement.

A Rule 5 draftee cannot be sent to the minors in any event without first placing him on waivers, and if he clears, then being offered back to his original team. Whether he is on the DL or not is irrelevant.


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I would only add that he would need to be exposed to waivers only if he was out of options.
Well, leaving aside the technicality that if it has been three or more years since a player first appeared on the Active List, he has to clear waivers even if he has options remaining. (OOTP doesn't recreate this aspect of the rules.)

A player out of options being sent down to the minors is not only being removed from the 25-man roster but also the 40-man roster. This transaction move always requires waivers (specifically, outright assignment waivers).

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