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AndrewG · 07-30-2009, 02:52 PM

First of all, let me say that most game developpers DONT have a marekting department as most others selling anything have.

I was heavily invovled in one particular game where a group of us went from modders to actually step in and develop new versions. I found out first hand there and subsequently after that marketing for gaming industry, ESPECIALLY PC GAMING, is a different animal.

It was also at this one gig in particular there that I say one MASSIVE mistake that compnay made that OOTP HASNT. is the way the OOTP developpers really work to listen to what the community asks for to keep tried and trusted clients hooked on it and thus keep buying it. I am sure many of us can say we have talked others into buying the game. Which is of course a good thing.

As far as where OOTP can go to grab a bigger slice, well. Thats the 64,000$ question.

But as mentioned before in this thread, you DO want to nail the Fantasy crowd. And yes, alot of them use thier computers for tracking and running thier leagues, so natrually Twitter, Facebook and fantasy blogging can be one place to hit.

There are plenty of website that review games that accept reviews form everyday users. We can promote the game. And even when OOTP has a professional review done, we can comment on the game in follow up comments on these sites to drive the point home.

Now something I have been involved in a few times, but woudl need tweaking for OOTP. Its often GREAT promotion to hold a tournement. Now, this is easier said than done with OOTP. Sure, in a FPS you simply sign up, hold a round robin roudn then knock out playoffs and the last man standing is the winner. You give prizes and you normally hook new fans.

The trouble with a OOTP tourney, is that its not a game thats played as easy as a FPS. It takes time to draft a team and set them up for a tourney. Any given season takes a while to do.. and for people like me who loves OOTP, I always build a team slowly, so a wham bam tourney may not be my forte.

However it colld be interesting.

You could do something general.

This is stirctly off the top of my head:

1-You narrow it down to say 8 types of teams. There are strict templates.

Example: Team with great power, but low basespeed. Or Poor power but great contact. Or a balance of everything.

You just have to come up with different templates that in an overall gerneral evaluation are even. (A team with great hitting and no pitching could beat or lose a team with great pitchign and no hititng if they are built correctly.

2-You have an initial sign up. You might have 16 teams, you might have 160. This has to be guaged to lay out the next step.

3-You then allocate players into divisions. This is random. Now.. managers either select what tempalte of a team they want, or perhaps again this is allocated by random by those running the tourney.

4-You then give a period of time where the manager ajusts all his/her team settings. This is where a good manager will show thier stuff. Imagine if you have 50 teams using the same template. Techically its all luck if the settings are all degfault, chnaging these to what you have for your staff is key.

5-You then have a round robin round to rank your teams in each division. Then depending on the amount of teams you have and decide can advance, begin a kncok out playoff of best of 1, 3 or whatever. Really, it shoudl be a one game series, tis a tourney, anything happens in a real life weekend baseball tourney, why not with a similar OOTP tourney?

YOU CAN HAVE:

Managers reajust thier settings at certain times in tourney. Although this adds lag, you have to give a certain period for people to dl and reupload file. I am not a fan of this but others may be. As organizaer of tournaments in real life and online games, its a pain in the ass.

You could base divisions around different countires or geograpihcal areas for rivalries.

Allow injuries, or not.

You can have tournies avery 3 months or whatever.

Yes, there is a huge elelment of luck on knock out tourneies, but hey, I guarantee you it will still hook some players even more.

If you have prizes, and Im not saying money, but free dls of other games ect... people will join.

At worst, why not just try it?

I would love to help...

07-30-2009, 02:52 PM	#28
AndrewG Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pointe Claire, PQ, CANADA Posts: 317	First of all, let me say that most game developpers DONT have a marekting department as most others selling anything have. I was heavily invovled in one particular game where a group of us went from modders to actually step in and develop new versions. I found out first hand there and subsequently after that marketing for gaming industry, ESPECIALLY PC GAMING, is a different animal. It was also at this one gig in particular there that I say one MASSIVE mistake that compnay made that OOTP HASNT. is the way the OOTP developpers really work to listen to what the community asks for to keep tried and trusted clients hooked on it and thus keep buying it. I am sure many of us can say we have talked others into buying the game. Which is of course a good thing. As far as where OOTP can go to grab a bigger slice, well. Thats the 64,000$ question. But as mentioned before in this thread, you DO want to nail the Fantasy crowd. And yes, alot of them use thier computers for tracking and running thier leagues, so natrually Twitter, Facebook and fantasy blogging can be one place to hit. There are plenty of website that review games that accept reviews form everyday users. We can promote the game. And even when OOTP has a professional review done, we can comment on the game in follow up comments on these sites to drive the point home. Now something I have been involved in a few times, but woudl need tweaking for OOTP. Its often GREAT promotion to hold a tournement. Now, this is easier said than done with OOTP. Sure, in a FPS you simply sign up, hold a round robin roudn then knock out playoffs and the last man standing is the winner. You give prizes and you normally hook new fans. The trouble with a OOTP tourney, is that its not a game thats played as easy as a FPS. It takes time to draft a team and set them up for a tourney. Any given season takes a while to do.. and for people like me who loves OOTP, I always build a team slowly, so a wham bam tourney may not be my forte. However it colld be interesting. You could do something general. This is stirctly off the top of my head: 1-You narrow it down to say 8 types of teams. There are strict templates. Example: Team with great power, but low basespeed. Or Poor power but great contact. Or a balance of everything. You just have to come up with different templates that in an overall gerneral evaluation are even. (A team with great hitting and no pitching could beat or lose a team with great pitchign and no hititng if they are built correctly. 2-You have an initial sign up. You might have 16 teams, you might have 160. This has to be guaged to lay out the next step. 3-You then allocate players into divisions. This is random. Now.. managers either select what tempalte of a team they want, or perhaps again this is allocated by random by those running the tourney. 4-You then give a period of time where the manager ajusts all his/her team settings. This is where a good manager will show thier stuff. Imagine if you have 50 teams using the same template. Techically its all luck if the settings are all degfault, chnaging these to what you have for your staff is key. 5-You then have a round robin round to rank your teams in each division. Then depending on the amount of teams you have and decide can advance, begin a kncok out playoff of best of 1, 3 or whatever. Really, it shoudl be a one game series, tis a tourney, anything happens in a real life weekend baseball tourney, why not with a similar OOTP tourney? YOU CAN HAVE: Managers reajust thier settings at certain times in tourney. Although this adds lag, you have to give a certain period for people to dl and reupload file. I am not a fan of this but others may be. As organizaer of tournaments in real life and online games, its a pain in the ass. You could base divisions around different countires or geograpihcal areas for rivalries. Allow injuries, or not. You can have tournies avery 3 months or whatever. Yes, there is a huge elelment of luck on knock out tourneies, but hey, I guarantee you it will still hook some players even more. If you have prizes, and Im not saying money, but free dls of other games ect... people will join. At worst, why not just try it? I would love to help...