Geez,
Sometimes I wonder why we miss each other so much when we probably agree on so much. Even now, I'm not sure what accent to put on your "Geez".
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Geez.
Baseball guys didn't call it BABIP. They called it "hits." And they felt a pitcher _strongly_ controlled the hits he gives up--many still do. Perhaps they are right, despite a lot of performance data that refutes this "strong" control. At the end of the day, though, a lot of sabermetrics supports the old-school thoughts...it's just where sabermetrics studies clash that gets all the ink.
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I know they called them "hits". What I was saying was that, even back in the day, managers were more concerned with pitchers giving up homers, a lot of walks, or getting enough strikeouts than they were just with hits.
In other words, BABIP came along and said, " Look at me! I'm a new stat! Look at me!" Several years later, Voros comes along and says, " That ain't much of a stat. Look at HRs, BBs, and Ks first."
But that's what baseball people had been doing a long time... and never really stopped doing, in my opinion.