OOTP Developments Forums - View Single Post - Coming from OOTP6, the interface is completely alien and non-sensical

cody8200 · 06-05-2009, 04:34 PM

WHY is the home page a web page in HTML format? And many other pages for that matter? It seems almost all of these pages could just as easily have been rendered in-game. This web page format is terrible because I can't click any names or teams to actually get me to the player or team pages - I just get taken to a dumb HTML page that doesn't have the information and has wildly inaccurate ratings.

right click on a players name in the html and click open profile. Thats the page you are looking for.

Large lists are now sorted into PAGES?!? This is the most unintuitive system ever. I can't scroll through the list now, I can't directly compare the last player on page 1 with the first player on page 2. Why would this be implemented, especially without an OPTION to use a standard scrollbar?

This is an option in the game preferences tab on the main page. You can do pages or scrolling.

Trading
-Every single time I change a trade partner, it clears my entire list. WHY? If I want to shop a particular player around a few teams, I have to re-add the player every single time.

You can right click on a player and shop him to all teams at the exact same time. Saves a ton of time.

-The "players that would make the deal work" feature has completely disappeared. It was a very easy way to gauge trade interest. It seems to be replaced by this "Shop a player" function, which is nice for multiple teams, but you completely lose the ability to gauge trade value for MULTIPLE players, and there is a dumb arbitrary restriction of only three players a day. WHY would you hard-code 3 players into a feature like that - it easily could and should be customizable.

You receive an email after you send over a trade offer of what players would make the deal work.

-Browsing for players is now a tedious process. In previous versions, you could click "Add Player" and be taken to basically a full roster view where you could see all players in an organization at once, and browse and sort by any ratings or stats just like browsing the roster regularly. In the trading screen now I get a roster view that gives me very, very limited information - I can only see one level at a time, CANNOT sort ratings or statistics at all, can't filter by position or anything like that. I can click for a team "report" - this takes me to a positional strength page that's equally as useless to me. From here I can go to the team roster where I can get a similar view to what I actually want, but I can't simply add any player to the trade from here - I've now completely exited the trading screen.

Use the roster screen to sort all team data and change the filter to whatever data you would like to see

Here's an example of the process of finding and adding a player in OOTPX:
1. Click (team) Report
2. Click Roster tab
3. Change listed players to: All Players of organization
4. Find player
At this point I can't just add the player to the trade, I *have* to go through the roster list at the trade screen. So then I have to:
5. Click player (open player info)
6. Find which team he is on
7. Go to the Recent tab and find Initiate Trade
8. Change roster view to the team the player is on
9. Find player in roster view
10. Right-click context menu.
11. Click "Add player to trade"

To add a player to any trade, right click and click add to trade. For a player that is not on your team, use the search bar at the top of the game and search by last name.

To me, the interface of OOTPX is so unusable to the point of being broken. Am I the only person who feels this way, coming in from OOTP6 or earlier? When did this sudden interface revolution take over? Would versions 8 or 9 be closer to OOTP6 than 10? If they were, I would seriously consider just gifting my OOTPX and picking those up - far far before all the feature bloat, the things that made OOTP far more enjoyable than other sims was the statistical accuracy and ease-of-use/management. The latter I feel is critical to a game like OOTP which is basically all about micromanagement, and I feel that it's been completely lost in this version.[/QUOTE]

You'll get used to it. OOTP X takes a bit of time to really get the hang od, especially if you missed the three iterations of the game in between but you'll get the hand of it. It's defiitely worth the effort.

06-05-2009, 04:34 PM	#3
cody8200 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,436	WHY is the home page a web page in HTML format? And many other pages for that matter? It seems almost all of these pages could just as easily have been rendered in-game. This web page format is terrible because I can't click any names or teams to actually get me to the player or team pages - I just get taken to a dumb HTML page that doesn't have the information and has wildly inaccurate ratings. right click on a players name in the html and click open profile. Thats the page you are looking for. Large lists are now sorted into PAGES?!? This is the most unintuitive system ever. I can't scroll through the list now, I can't directly compare the last player on page 1 with the first player on page 2. Why would this be implemented, especially without an OPTION to use a standard scrollbar? This is an option in the game preferences tab on the main page. You can do pages or scrolling. Trading -Every single time I change a trade partner, it clears my entire list. WHY? If I want to shop a particular player around a few teams, I have to re-add the player every single time. You can right click on a player and shop him to all teams at the exact same time. Saves a ton of time. -The "players that would make the deal work" feature has completely disappeared. It was a very easy way to gauge trade interest. It seems to be replaced by this "Shop a player" function, which is nice for multiple teams, but you completely lose the ability to gauge trade value for MULTIPLE players, and there is a dumb arbitrary restriction of only three players a day. WHY would you hard-code 3 players into a feature like that - it easily could and should be customizable. You receive an email after you send over a trade offer of what players would make the deal work. -Browsing for players is now a tedious process. In previous versions, you could click "Add Player" and be taken to basically a full roster view where you could see all players in an organization at once, and browse and sort by any ratings or stats just like browsing the roster regularly. In the trading screen now I get a roster view that gives me very, very limited information - I can only see one level at a time, CANNOT sort ratings or statistics at all, can't filter by position or anything like that. I can click for a team "report" - this takes me to a positional strength page that's equally as useless to me. From here I can go to the team roster where I can get a similar view to what I actually want, but I can't simply add any player to the trade from here - I've now completely exited the trading screen. Use the roster screen to sort all team data and change the filter to whatever data you would like to see Here's an example of the process of finding and adding a player in OOTPX: 1. Click (team) Report 2. Click Roster tab 3. Change listed players to: All Players of organization 4. Find player At this point I can't just add the player to the trade, I have to go through the roster list at the trade screen. So then I have to: 5. Click player (open player info) 6. Find which team he is on 7. Go to the Recent tab and find Initiate Trade 8. Change roster view to the team the player is on 9. Find player in roster view 10. Right-click context menu. 11. Click "Add player to trade" To add a player to any trade, right click and click add to trade. For a player that is not on your team, use the search bar at the top of the game and search by last name. To me, the interface of OOTPX is so unusable to the point of being broken. Am I the only person who feels this way, coming in from OOTP6 or earlier? When did this sudden interface revolution take over? Would versions 8 or 9 be closer to OOTP6 than 10? If they were, I would seriously consider just gifting my OOTPX and picking those up - far far before all the feature bloat, the things that made OOTP far more enjoyable than other sims was the statistical accuracy and ease-of-use/management. The latter I feel is critical to a game like OOTP which is basically all about micromanagement, and I feel that it's been completely lost in this version.[/QUOTE] You'll get used to it. OOTP X takes a bit of time to really get the hang od, especially if you missed the three iterations of the game in between but you'll get the hand of it. It's defiitely worth the effort.