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Old 06-03-2009, 08:11 PM   #185
Flying Dutchmen
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Originally Posted by kq76 View Post
I think what he was getting at is that surely the potential overall rating should be higher. Yeah, the current overall rating should suck, but the potential should be closer to 40, not 20. That is, the individual potential ratings are 50,45,40. Surely that shouldn't translate into an overall of the bare minimum of 20.

It's a pet peeve of mine as well. You get into the draft and it's like 80% of the players have 20 potential. Sure, most shouldn't be nowhere near good, but there should be a bit more differentiation than that with potential overall ratings. Otherwise, you have to spend a lot more time picking out who's better based on individual ratings.
50 is generally regarded as major league average to scouts, so this pitcher is sub-average if OOTP aligns to this.

The following link has a helpful introductory discussion of scouting from the Baseball America Prospect Handbook:



I'll put up their definition of 20-80 potential ratings here to give you some context:

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A player's overall future potential is also graded on the 20-80 scale, though some teams use a letter grade. This number is not just the sum of his tools, but rather a profiling system and a scout's ultimate opinion of the player.

70-80 (A): This category is reserved for the elite players in baseball. This player will be a perennial all-star, the best player at his position, one of the top five starters in the game, or a frontline closer. Alex Rodriguez, Ichiro Suzuki, and Johan Santana reside here.

60-69 (B): You'll find all-star-caliber players here: #2 starters on a championship club and first-division players. See John Lackey, Torii Hunter, and Carl Crawford.

55-59 (C+): The majority of first-division starters are found in this range, including quality #2 and #3 starters, frontline set-up men, and second-tier closers.

50-54 (C): Solid-average everyday major leaguers. Most are not first-division regulars. This group also includes #4 and #5 starters.

45-49 (D+): Fringe everyday players, backups, some #5 starters, middle relievers, pinch-hitters, and one-tool players.

40-44 (D): Up-and-down roster fillers, situational relievers, and 25th players.

38-39 (O): Organizational players who provide depth for the minor leagues, but are not considered future major leaguers.

20-37 (NP): Not a prospect.
If you used this system, that pitcher would be in the 40s, but the OOTP potential system seems to take the 38-39 potential group and lower and put them all as 20 potential. I like to think of these 20 potential guys as (at best) replacement-level players. I'd guess the game thinks this guy is no better than other AAAA-starter you could plug in there. That's debatable of course.
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