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gollum65 · 02-02-2009, 07:42 AM

Your post really got me thinking however, and I'm probably going to restart this dynasty. Supposedly about the max player salary in 1920 was around $25,000. But in my league I already have players making over $89,000. This doesn't bode well for future league finances. I don't believe teams will be able to earn enough to pay free agents in future years.

Assuming I do restart this thing, I have 2 choices that I've found to try to cure this issue. The first is to just turn off financials until 1977 when MLB free agency came into effect. And the second is to use a financial model I found described in a forum thread about historical finances that was detailed in a forum post by Spritze. Here's what he does:

Here are a couple of things I use for pre-1970 leagues

I set the service year to 365 days, free agency to occur only after 12 years, disable the right to refuse minor league assignment, no rule 5 draft and arbitration after either one year or never (depending). This inhibits player movement by putting the team in charge of movement as it was then rather than the player in charge as it is now.

Then I use an altered financials.txt file to really inhibit team cash. I do this by setting media contracts pre-1920's to zero. I also set the average ticket price to bleacher seat prices to offset the artificially high merchandising revenue.

The result is the maximum contracts track historical trends much closer. As an example the max contract in 1950 is around $100,000 (Teddy Ballgame). Player movement also better mimics those olden days and teams have less cash to hoard.

He did attach his financials.txt file to the thread, so I have that too.

I also want to start over and use player recalc like I originally said I would. It almost seems to me that without it, player development doesn't occur, or at least not in this era. For example, I just completed the 1920 season in game. Babe Ruth played every game, yet his ratings didn't progress a bit, and his "overall rating" decreased. He batted .281, but only hit 5 homers. So it doesn't seem to me like it's working. If I use recalc (like someone suggested), that would solve this problem.

If you were in my boat, and you were going to restart, what would you do about the finances? Turn them off or use Spritze's model?

02-02-2009, 07:42 AM	#90
gollum65 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 925	Your post really got me thinking however, and I'm probably going to restart this dynasty. Supposedly about the max player salary in 1920 was around $25,000. But in my league I already have players making over $89,000. This doesn't bode well for future league finances. I don't believe teams will be able to earn enough to pay free agents in future years. Assuming I do restart this thing, I have 2 choices that I've found to try to cure this issue. The first is to just turn off financials until 1977 when MLB free agency came into effect. And the second is to use a financial model I found described in a forum thread about historical finances that was detailed in a forum post by Spritze. Here's what he does: Here are a couple of things I use for pre-1970 leagues I set the service year to 365 days, free agency to occur only after 12 years, disable the right to refuse minor league assignment, no rule 5 draft and arbitration after either one year or never (depending). This inhibits player movement by putting the team in charge of movement as it was then rather than the player in charge as it is now. Then I use an altered financials.txt file to really inhibit team cash. I do this by setting media contracts pre-1920's to zero. I also set the average ticket price to bleacher seat prices to offset the artificially high merchandising revenue. The result is the maximum contracts track historical trends much closer. As an example the max contract in 1950 is around $100,000 (Teddy Ballgame). Player movement also better mimics those olden days and teams have less cash to hoard. He did attach his financials.txt file to the thread, so I have that too. I also want to start over and use player recalc like I originally said I would. It almost seems to me that without it, player development doesn't occur, or at least not in this era. For example, I just completed the 1920 season in game. Babe Ruth played every game, yet his ratings didn't progress a bit, and his "overall rating" decreased. He batted .281, but only hit 5 homers. So it doesn't seem to me like it's working. If I use recalc (like someone suggested), that would solve this problem. If you were in my boat, and you were going to restart, what would you do about the finances? Turn them off or use Spritze's model?