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Old 07-29-2008, 10:35 PM   #7
Prodigal Son
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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager View Post
BP has a mountain of data on conveting the Japanese league numbers into MLB numbers.
So if you were so inclined you could find out many 'MLB' hits Ichiro collected in Japan and then find out when his saber 3000th hit will occur

I also have to add that Ichiro would make a poor HOF selection
A carrer 117 OPS+ is pretty pederstrian and no where near HOF level
Especially for a corner outfielder. Ichiro has maybe what, one season in MLB as a top 5 corner OF? His hype is a direct result of his international appeal, unique playing style (and unique statistical output) and the general trend of overrating hits and underrating power and walks.

And Ichiro's 3000 hits only count if we decide to convert everyone's minor leagues numbers throughout history to see how many hits they have. Not that the American minors are as good as Japanese ball (although AAA is pretty comparable), the point is that if you're going to convert one guys pre-MLB stats, it's only fair to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Because you have a guy like Ryan Howard who crushed 111 HR in the minors and was stuck there through no fault of his own (because Philly had Thome and didn't want to have to start Howard's clock as a backup).

Last edited by Prodigal Son; 07-29-2008 at 10:36 PM.
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