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Old 07-28-2008, 01:39 AM   #211
Knuckster
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Originally Posted by Garlon View Post
8. Fixed gaps in the playing records of all players in the DB.
Many players missed seasons for various reasons during their career, being sent to the minor leagues, injuries, military service, etc.
We filled in these gaps of a player's recod by taking an average of the bookend seasons of the gap and applying it to all missing seasons in that gap.
This was done so that no players would be permanently missing when you start a league in OOTP.
It will also help with recalc mode by providing additional statistics.

9. Fixed low AB or IP totals for players who had at least one full season of career stats but may have only had a few AB or IP in a given season.
We pro-rated any missing AB to give a player 251 AB on the season based on his career average.
We pro-rated any missing IP to give a pitcher 40 IP on the season based on his career average.
This was done so that OOTP can provide better ratings in these instances.
All players in the DB who had at least 550 AB career or 162 IP career, will have at least 251 AB and 40 IP in any season in which they played.
It is #9 that bothers me most. I'm examining players for my redraft league that starts in 1920. And this #9 really inflates the value of a lot of players.

Take only one example (of many):

Mike "Minooka Mike" McNally
whose real career totals (1915-1925) were 492 games and 1000 AB and 85 RBI. The most at bats he had in single seasons were 312, 215, 143, and 135. His other season he ranged from 21 to 69 at bats and was obviously a "non-force" in those years.

Yet being up the "neutralized stats screen" and whoa, we have a whole new player!

His career at bats have almost tripled, to 2829. He now has 230 RBI (again, triple what he actually had). The 250 at bats and wel over 100 games played eah season (as "neutralized") suddenly make him a steady back up player for some team for ten years. Whereas in real life his career was unstable.

So I am not that familiar with OOTP 9 (I just got it), although I used to play a former version a lot. But it seems in these instances - and there are many - that marginal players are suddenly given whole careers which they never had.

I mean this is a lot different than just tweaking stats for what ball parks they played in and the type pof pitching staff that fronted them. This injects an aberration into the game. I dont want my league to see this guy get 250 Abs every year for ten years when in reality he was a bit player almost his entire career.

Is the computer AI going to rank him based on real or neutralized stats? Is the AI more likely to draft him or trade for him, or play him, based on his sudden emergence as a 100+ game playerevery year? Im sorry I dont know the intricacies of 9.0. I liked the idea of neutralizing the stats, but only of neutralizing them, not creating tripling the playing time for marginal players.

A similar thing happens regarding #8 "fixing gaps" - which produces some really unrealistic statitistics. Say a "relief pitcher" pitched in 1920 and not again until 1926 - and nothing in between. Since those missing years are filled in, the guy suddenly becomes a steady reliever for seven years, instead of a guy who hurled two seasons. Again, how is the computer going to evaluate such a player's stats.
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