Originally Posted by tysok
I think perhaps people don't realize what goes into this game.
Markus is the programmer, he codes everything, he decides what goes in and what doesn't, he makes the tweaks that make this a better simulation of baseball and he makes the options that everyone loves work right. He does that.
But he's not alone, he's just the only one getting paid. I think, I would hope, that even Markus would admit the game would not be as good as it is without the help of a WHOLE SLEW of other people who volunteer their time to make OOTP as good as it is.
If anyone thinks that player development follows the Tango curve as well as it does (it may not be perfect, but it's close and it's better than anything else out there by a huge margin) because Markus spent time analyzing data, they're dreaming - and dreaming of an army of carbon copies of Markus inhabiting a country called Markusland. It follows that because some extremely diligent and hard working people pulled off data, discussed it, argued over it, and suggested changes.... it was tweaked and then the process repeated, and it repeated 50+ times over and over again.
I've read in here that some think the trade AI is a lot better. They can thank the army of beta testers that worked their behinds off over the last few months, the ones who went blind trying to rip off the AI and pointing out every little mistake they thought appropriate.
You like the new historical pieces? Thank the guys on the historical team and the guy who spent a heep load of time writing up a suggestion of how it could be handled better. Then thank that army of beta testers who burned up their computers for months running historical sims, and who went blind looking at the stat outputs day after day and pointing out the problems.
If anyone likes the news or pbp text, you can thank everyone who spent any time at all writing suggestions to be put in, thank the guy who spent hours on hours of time putting that text in and substituting the tokens so it worked, thank those guys who spent the entire beta running test season after test season doing nothing but reading those news articles and studying the pbp for inconsistencies.
Think injuries are better at all? More real? Thank the guys who spent hours upon hours pulling off OOTP injury data, pulling out real life injury data, and comparing and arguing over how it should look in game.
Pat every beta tester you see on the back for making the game what it is. When you're done doing that, give everyone else you see a pat on the back as well, because it isn't just the beta testers who've helped to make this game what it is right now. They just sacrificed a lot more time and effort to it, and from what I've seen so far there isn't any of them asking your praise for it.
The game WAS promised to include rosters. That's true. But if anyone thinks that Markus had any hand in making them at all their dreaming of Markusland again. I don't know who all worked on them, but I know it was a handful of beta testers that did it. Do those beta testers wish they'd had a little longer to do it? Maybe, probably, but they didn't. They worked their behinds off over the last couple months and got this put together. They decided to sit down at their computers and work on this roster set instead of going out to play with their kids on Saturday afternoon, or maybe when they can't sleep they decided to mess with the rosters instead of taking a Tylenol PM and getting enough sleep for the next day. Why do they do that? And why will they continue to do that for the next couple of months while everyone else is playing the game and enjoying it to any degree?
We pay Markus for his time and knowledge of coding, without him there isn't any game. But without the community here the game isn't what it is.
If you want a refund because the roster set isn't everything you dreamed of (or maybe it is in diarray right now, I don't play historicals or reality) then that is certainly your right.
But when someone starts complaining on the boards that the roster set is horrible and it sucks and that it's deception --- that's not an insult to only Markus. It's an insult to everyone who volunteered their time and energy to try to give you what you want. It's an insult to every beta tester who loaded that roster set and glanced at it. It's an insult to every beta tester that did anything at all during their time.
There should be no surprise that some took it as an insult, and are posting likewise. Markus isn't OOTP, he's the leader of OOTP.
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