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Dagrims · 05-28-2008, 02:02 PM

I think it would be difficult to redefine the concept of a save or hold without making it subjective, and that opens up new controversies. I'm in favor of leaving both statistics calculated the way they currently are, and being knowledgable about the limitations of both statistics to measure effectiveness. A closer with 45 saves might have obtained a few saves over the course of a season without being tremendously effective, but if that statistic is taken in conjunction with blown saves, homeruns allowed, and WHIP, you can make a pretty fair assessment of the quality of the closer.

The only part of the save definition that I don't think makes much sense is the "pitches at least three innings" condition.

05-28-2008, 02:02 PM	#3
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	I think it would be difficult to redefine the concept of a save or hold without making it subjective, and that opens up new controversies. I'm in favor of leaving both statistics calculated the way they currently are, and being knowledgable about the limitations of both statistics to measure effectiveness. A closer with 45 saves might have obtained a few saves over the course of a season without being tremendously effective, but if that statistic is taken in conjunction with blown saves, homeruns allowed, and WHIP, you can make a pretty fair assessment of the quality of the closer. The only part of the save definition that I don't think makes much sense is the "pitches at least three innings" condition. __________________ "Read books, get brain."