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KurtBevacqua · 05-11-2008, 06:22 AM

OK, it's time for the mac daddy of controversial ballplayers himself. Should I even bother listing the credentials? Oh well, I'll list some of them.

7-time NL MVP
14-time all star
all-time home run leader
8 gold gloves
2 batting titles
6th all-time slugging
4th all-time OPS
3rd all-time in runs scored
4th all-time in total bases
4th all-time in RBIs
1st all-time in walks
1st all-time in runs created
single season home run record
Pretty much destroys all the HoF numerical measures

Why he belongs in the Hall
- His onfield measurables probably place him in the top three batters of all-time along with Ruth and Williams. There is absolutely no question of his Hall worthiness as a player

- The old "He was a Hall of Fame Player before he took steroids" argument

- Also the old "steroids weren't banned by baseball when he took them" argument

- The old "But Barry didn't know he was taking steroids" argument

Why Barry shouldn't be in the Hall
- There is a mountain of circumstantial evidence suggesting that Barry Bonds indeed did use performance enhancing drugs

- Bonds admitted in testimony that he indeed did take performance enhancing drugs, although he also maintains he did so unkowingly

- He was indicted for perjury in relation to his testimony on whether or not he took illegal performance enhancing drugs

Shall I outline the details of the allegations and circumstantial evidence against Bonds? Maybe in another post.

05-11-2008, 06:22 AM	#1
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	Does this controversial player get your HoF vote #4: Barry Bonds OK, it's time for the mac daddy of controversial ballplayers himself. Should I even bother listing the credentials? Oh well, I'll list some of them. 7-time NL MVP 14-time all star all-time home run leader 8 gold gloves 2 batting titles 6th all-time slugging 4th all-time OPS 3rd all-time in runs scored 4th all-time in total bases 4th all-time in RBIs 1st all-time in walks 1st all-time in runs created single season home run record Pretty much destroys all the HoF numerical measures Why he belongs in the Hall - His onfield measurables probably place him in the top three batters of all-time along with Ruth and Williams. There is absolutely no question of his Hall worthiness as a player - The old "He was a Hall of Fame Player before he took steroids" argument - Also the old "steroids weren't banned by baseball when he took them" argument - The old "But Barry didn't know he was taking steroids" argument Why Barry shouldn't be in the Hall - There is a mountain of circumstantial evidence suggesting that Barry Bonds indeed did use performance enhancing drugs - Bonds admitted in testimony that he indeed did take performance enhancing drugs, although he also maintains he did so unkowingly - He was indicted for perjury in relation to his testimony on whether or not he took illegal performance enhancing drugs Shall I outline the details of the allegations and circumstantial evidence against Bonds? Maybe in another post. Attached Images __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner