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KurtBevacqua · 05-01-2008, 09:02 AM

The first in a rather limited, but open to growing series. I intend to post some famous players whose on the field performance would seem to indicate obvious HoF enshrinement, but whose off the field controversies may have tainted them to the extent they may never get into the Hall. Now is the chance for you to weigh the issues and decide, knowing what you know are presume to know about them, if you were a BPAA voting member how would you cast your vote.

Nominee number one, "Charlie Hustle" Pete Rose.

Why he belongs:
Does anyone here really need to be reminded why he's a Hall of Fame ballplayer? Let's lay it out anyways
All time hits leader (4256)
17-time All Star
1963 ROY
1973 NL MVP
1975 WS MVP
3 World Series rings
2 gold gloves
3-time batting champ
2nd all-time in doubles (746)
6th all-time runs scored (2156)
7th all-time total bases (5752)
1st all-time times on base (5929)
Easily surpasses every numeric standard (Black ink, Gray ink, HOF Monitor, etc) for Hall of Fame batters

Why he shouldn't be in the HoF
He broke baseball rule #1, he gambled on the game
He denied gambling on baseball for years, yet still made a deal with the commissioner to end the investigation
Still denied gambling despite agreeing to the deal, then finally admitted to gambling, very poorly in a book that probably made him lots of money
Went to jail for tax evasion linked to baseball memorabilia sales

Please vote and feel free to argue your point.

05-01-2008, 09:02 AM	#1
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	Does this controversial player get your HoF vote #1: Pete Rose The first in a rather limited, but open to growing series. I intend to post some famous players whose on the field performance would seem to indicate obvious HoF enshrinement, but whose off the field controversies may have tainted them to the extent they may never get into the Hall. Now is the chance for you to weigh the issues and decide, knowing what you know are presume to know about them, if you were a BPAA voting member how would you cast your vote. Nominee number one, "Charlie Hustle" Pete Rose. Why he belongs: Does anyone here really need to be reminded why he's a Hall of Fame ballplayer? Let's lay it out anyways All time hits leader (4256) 17-time All Star 1963 ROY 1973 NL MVP 1975 WS MVP 3 World Series rings 2 gold gloves 3-time batting champ 2nd all-time in doubles (746) 6th all-time runs scored (2156) 7th all-time total bases (5752) 1st all-time times on base (5929) Easily surpasses every numeric standard (Black ink, Gray ink, HOF Monitor, etc) for Hall of Fame batters Why he shouldn't be in the HoF He broke baseball rule #1, he gambled on the game He denied gambling on baseball for years, yet still made a deal with the commissioner to end the investigation Still denied gambling despite agreeing to the deal, then finally admitted to gambling, very poorly in a book that probably made him lots of money Went to jail for tax evasion linked to baseball memorabilia sales Please vote and feel free to argue your point. Attached Images __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner Last edited by KurtBevacqua; 05-01-2008 at 09:04 AM.