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Old 03-07-2008, 04:33 AM   #380
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Originally Posted by andymac View Post
You don't understand why it doesn't make sense to evaluate an individual player using a team dependent statistic? Well, I just don't know where to go from there. It is along the same line of thinking as saying Albert Pujols had a bad season last year because the Cardinals had a bad record. The team statistic of wins was low so Albert's output must have been low, right? But how about that Alex Cora, his team won a ton of games, what a great player.
I keep trying to point out me (and many traditionalists) dont measure by RBis alone. You clearly dont fully understand what I try to point out. The reason I keep placing emphasis on team dependence is it is a team game. 9 players not one. Something that has been since baseball's inception. I am not saying the team should be the sole factor. But, it has to have some consideration. If you want individual sports, perhaps golf or tennis, maybe?

In football, I dont know of any stat that tries to separate Ray Lewis from the rest of his team and try to place a team independent stat on him. ANd how the heck do you try that with an O-linemen.

Again, as I mentioned last night, I think both sides get to the same place in many cases, just @$$-backwards of each other.
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