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Old 03-07-2008, 01:39 AM   #377
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Originally Posted by Left-handed Badger View Post
Alright, what would you say is wrong with VORP out of curiosity. It has been mentioned it isnt "perfect" but nobody elaborates.
Well, partly because the problems with VORP are a little more intricate and it takes digging into how VORP is created to understand them. In other words, things we don't expect anyone who refers to us as "VORPers" to really get or understand.

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And for arguments' sake, I will give some problems with RBI.

1) No context of when/where in the game it came, and importance of that RBI.

2) It is team dependent. (Repeated ad nauseum here, and it is hard to understand why something team dependent is so horrible in a team sport)

For your guy A, he does get a raise in hit total, BA, OBP, and Slugging Pct. so he isnt completely punished. Just saying. Note: And if he does little things like that often enough, he perhaps may end up with a little extra come contract time.
You don't understand why it doesn't make sense to evaluate an individual player using a team dependent statistic? Well, I just don't know where to go from there. It is along the same line of thinking as saying Albert Pujols had a bad season last year because the Cardinals had a bad record. The team statistic of wins was low so Albert's output must have been low, right? But how about that Alex Cora, his team won a ton of games, what a great player.
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