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Originally Posted by tysok
VORP is base on runs created right? I think.
There's a runs created version that attempts to take into account runners on base and runners in scoring position. It would be somewhat leveraged for those situations at least... I doubt the game uses that version of RC, and who knows what an "offical" VORP in reality would use.
Sabermetrics aren't everything, they have problems of their own. RBIs aren't everything, it has its problems. Its just that there are less problems only looking at VORP than just looking at RBIs. VORP is just attempting to calculate how many uns this guy helps to produce. If guy A gets a 2-out single that moves guy B from 1st to third, then guy C singles guy B in.... guy C gets an RBI, guy B gets a run scored, but guy A gets nothing. Sabermetrics just figures in a little credit for guy A in scoring that run, and boils everything down to a single number to look at. If it's not taken in context it still means nothing, just like RBI or HR or SB alone.
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Alright, what would you say is wrong with VORP out of curiosity. It has been mentioned it isnt "perfect" but nobody elaborates.
And for arguments' sake, I will give some problems with RBI.
1) No context of when/where in the game it came, and importance of that RBI.
2) It is team dependent. (Repeated ad nauseum here, and it is hard to understand why something team dependent is so horrible in a team sport)
For your guy A, he does get a raise in hit total, BA, OBP, and Slugging Pct. so he isnt completely punished. Just saying. Note: And if he does little things like that often enough, he perhaps may end up with a little extra come contract time.