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Originally Posted by RchW
Maybe I'm missing the point but isn't the "replacement player" a virtual construction based on league wide averages for that season? It's not based on backup players that may be good or bad.
If so, then it doesn't matter that you have a good backup. VORP gives you an absolute ranking based on that seasons league averages. Your 60 VORP 1B is worth 60 no matter what his backup does.
However if you have good backup players, VORP will be just one of the stats you would use to create a better team. Either by finding another position for the good backup (DH for example), or trading for a comparable talent.
That's when I find VORP less useful. Many players have up and down careers so a GM must sometimes risk trading a currently good VORP player for someone who is lower but may have ratings/talent that should translate into good VORP. In my case I put more weight into contact and eye than power or K.
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Yeah, that was kind of my point. VORP gives you how good a guy is relative to others at his position, but it doesn't necessarily tell you how much value he added to his team, because he's compared against an artificial construction: a replacement player. The player who actually replaces him (the backup) may be significantly better than a replacement player, which actually brings the amount of value that the starter adds to the team down.
Using OOTP ratings, let's say you've got a guy who has an overall value of 75 at 1B and a guy with an overall value of 45 at SS. Among the free agents is a 2B with a value of 79 and a SS with a value of 60. All else being equal, the SS with the 60 is actually worth more to your team because he will add more value above the backup.
That's all I'm saying. It's no big aha! or anything. It's why when you have two good players at one position you trade one away. You can add more value by filling holes than by upgrading at positions where you are already good.