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pressure · 02-03-2008, 01:41 PM

I have a feeling this thread is about talked out, but I just had to add my 2 cents-

I understand the desire to have your MVP's chosen in a manner that is as close to reality as possible, meaning using "traditional" stats. But I really don't understand how people "won't trust" or just dismiss sabermetric stats. I mean, if you don't care because it's just a game, thats ok - I can understand that. Likewise if you don't want to put the effort in to understanding what those stats represent- fair enough. But not believing or trusting things that have gone through tons and tons of analysis with really really big sample sizes? I just don't get it. Go apply for a job with the Kansas state board of education. Go ahead, don't believe in it, but that doesn't change the fact that it is the way it is. Go look up D.I.P.S. It's totally counter intuitive, -BUT- it's been studied to death (probably because it is so counter intuitive) and it holds up every time.

And secondly-If your REALLY talking about who is the most valuable player (not selected MVP) in baseball or in your league, it is always based not on what the player did in the past but what the player is projected to do in the future. GM's that want to win games, don't care about what a player did in the past, they want predictions of what they will do now and in the near future.

02-03-2008, 01:41 PM	#88
pressure Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 192	I have a feeling this thread is about talked out, but I just had to add my 2 cents- I understand the desire to have your MVP's chosen in a manner that is as close to reality as possible, meaning using "traditional" stats. But I really don't understand how people "won't trust" or just dismiss sabermetric stats. I mean, if you don't care because it's just a game, thats ok - I can understand that. Likewise if you don't want to put the effort in to understanding what those stats represent- fair enough. But not believing or trusting things that have gone through tons and tons of analysis with really really big sample sizes? I just don't get it. Go apply for a job with the Kansas state board of education. Go ahead, don't believe in it, but that doesn't change the fact that it is the way it is. Go look up D.I.P.S. It's totally counter intuitive, -BUT- it's been studied to death (probably because it is so counter intuitive) and it holds up every time. And secondly-If your REALLY talking about who is the most valuable player (not selected MVP) in baseball or in your league, it is always based not on what the player did in the past but what the player is projected to do in the future. GM's that want to win games, don't care about what a player did in the past, they want predictions of what they will do now and in the near future.