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Old 02-01-2008, 12:36 AM   #123
Bryan Swartz
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1. That isn't necessary. You stated this:

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He basically was so hated on the olympic team he isnt allowed back. Not sure if he is the person I would want my trust in.
This is just plain false, as I was pointing out. Given that he was invited to be part of the group, and that Colangelo has publicly stated that him taking off last summer for rehab now excludes him, it's hard to argue that they didn't want him there.

2. Fair enough. To be more specific, your lone argument for Garnett was that this season should prove it to everybody(that his value is at the elite level I'm not willing to give). My point is that nothing he's done so far is the least bit relevant to my argument, which is that he's not the kind of player who carries a team to a championship. He can prove that right or wrong only in the playoffs, and since we aren't there yet, he could score 50 points a game and it would be irrelevant to what I've stated. Therefore it's what he's done in past years that is relevant to it.

3. First of all, you don't judge any player on what happens in one game. I haven't done that to Garnett, and I won't do it to Pippen either or anybody else. In fact I have explicity argued in this thread against such arguments. Secondly, the only reason I brought up Pippen's accomplishments was in response to what you said(that Scottie just rode Jordan's coattails). You are correct that it isn't relevant to his ability to be an elite player, and I've never included him in that class. I don't think it's necessary to be one to comment on whether or not someone else is. I think having played with Jordan and against a number of other great players is plenty for Pippen to have some credibility in recognizing whether or not Garnett has that same level of effect on a game. I also think his argument is rather strongly supported by the facts of KG's career.
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