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Originally posted by Squonk
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Bill ..

Unfortunately, as you have witnessed in this thread, the community has taken a turn for the worse, as you have seen so many times on the Internet in the past. The last time I can remember this happening was the old High Heat community ... 'bout three years ago ...where if you said anything negative, you were called a lunatic and you simply never returned to discuss the game further.

That's where this game is now.

People are blindly defending the engine, for that weird reason people do, even in the face of many, many farcical results and major bugs. The actions by the posters here would truly be a classic case study in sociology. My theory is that it goes deeper with them. They have invested themselves and far, far too much of their time. Therefore, they take it personally and it damages their psyche. Like any human, they deny evidence or they attack evidence. There is no rational anymore. That point in this game's history is over.

The community, really any community on the Internet that has a cult following with a social hierarchy and such, is much akin to a pile of bricks. It's solid in the beginning, and useful, but it gets to a certain point where it topples over on itself and then becomes useless and, finally, abandoned as rubble.

I could cite you fifteen major showstopping problems in this edition of the game after playing it for about a month but I won't. There is no use to it because it's real and it attacks people's ego. I could cite you fundamental cracks in the engine that will make this entire community, and it's social hierarchy, totally moot in two years time. It will be a ghost town with a few stragglers. Kind of like High Heat today.

You and I both know Markus is a good guy and he tries very hard to put out the best product he can and then follow that with unprecedented support. However, absolute power corrupts absolutely. When reading these boards, if I was the creator of the game, it would cause me serious, long term motivational problems. Why try when the masses worship so blindly? It would be near impossible to keep an edge and be progressive with this type of idoltry. It's not Markus' fault. The community, in it's zeal, does the game a great inservice. For some sociological reason, they are unable to see this.

In the end, the community, with the remarks made about such a ludicrous situation as you described, and their utter defense of that (and the defensive rating problem, which is even bigger and causes the game to be utterly un-authentic, IMO), is truly screwing itself. But .. there is a social hierarchy thing going on here and it has now assumed control over logical thought and reason.

Rational is out the door.

Don't even try.

At this point in this game's progression, the franchise is basically over.

So, it's pointless to even mention anything.

Just let it play itself out and consider it a part of baseball gaming history in the future.

SQ

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Yeah, I guess you're right. All these other guys shouldn't have an opinion Guess only the ones that agreed with him should have replied.

You really have 15 showstoppers? Are you still playing the game with these showstoppers? If you're really interested in helping the game bite the bullet take the heat and post them. Really I'm serious. Sure you'll take some heat from some posters (don't let it bother you they're only words) but Markus or Steve will see them and maybe do something about them. I'm guessing you make this post because you like the game and want it to get better. If you don't do this you'll be contributing to the death of the game (that you say is coming).