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Originally posted by Doctor Drew
Actually, if a player is all defense and weak offense, using the Win Shares system, he's not going to rate among the top players at all. Examples include players like the Mets Rey Ordonez, a defensive specialist at shortstop...in his 1999 season (a brilliant defensive year), he totalled 13 win shares. This was good enough for 8th on the team, but put him well behind players like Mike Piazza (21 win shares), who is considered a weak defensive catcher, but is a champ with the stick. Defense is important, but a purely defensive player is not among the top players, no matter who you ask. You gotta be able to do SOMETHING at the plate.
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Yes, you are correct, Win Shares does not emphasize defense at the individual level very strongly compared to their offense-which I think is a weakness. Also, Palmer/Thorn's TPR emphasizes being a good hitter at a position that is weak hitting in the rest of the league too strongly. But on the whole when I look at the team level using both methods, I can see at what positions I really need a better fielder, and about how much offense I am willing to give to get that.