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baseballbob · 03-16-2003, 09:49 PM

bump....

the essential questions are: (for historical data)

1. unnormalized data...does it produce player talent ratings based on the raw (non-normalized data? or does it normalize somehow before calculating the player talent ratings?)

2. what exactly is happening mathematically in recalculating league totals?

3. are any factors at all other than the raw data taken into account when deriving player talent ratings?

4. just how much do such talent ratings affect the results of the game? Are there instances where such ratings would somehow 'override' the fundamental core stats of the player...or are those ratings there simply for simplified (and more vague which is useful for 'scout' mode) referrence?

A lot of this really started to occur to me when, upon importing the '78 season, the scouting report for Reggie Jackson said something about him not really being likely to amount to much of anything but that he has, though not great, some power.
It makes me wonder if the reports and ratings are calculated based on the non-normalized data...and, of course, HR totals were much lower on average that year than we are used to in these recent years.

5. In general, is there any hope of ever having a posted write-up of how these things such as 'league totals, etc.' were made and what they do and how they impact the game?
Is this simply a trade secret? Or does no one truly know how to give a good explanation of what it is other than: well, use it, tweak it, and trust that it'll work then...

Is this asking too much for such an explanation of something so fundamental to the game itself?

EDIT: Sorry about my tone in the last paragraph that I wrote before. OOTP5 and its 'crew' are awesome and I'm glad to have discovered them...I was simply growing frustrated with my attempts to understand...yet, getting no feedback on earlier posts even though I find it unlikely that this post has been un-read by 'those in the know' (or those who know 'those in the know')
I know that OOTP5 is great with offering support and help and delivering a great product that very much takes into mind what its fan base wants...and, to me, that is a very commendable trait in a game company...
but, I have also grown somewhat perplexed as to what is actually going on with a lack of response to my posed question.

Please, if I have written my post in a way that is not understandable and clarification is necessary, please let me know. Also, if my post is considered to have obvious answers that I should know by now...please let me know that too. Or, if its a case that I HAVE in fact, posted an unreasonable question, please let me know. Or, if the answer is confidential due to 'trade secret' considerations...please press "7"...If, instead, those who have read this post who are 'in the know' don't have time to respond to such an indepth question at this time, please press "8",....If, however, this is a case where the answers need to be first sought out before an answer can be given, please press "9"...or to return to the main menu, please press "0" at any time.

03-16-2003, 09:49 PM	#2
baseballbob Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 101	bump.... the essential questions are: (for historical data) 1. unnormalized data...does it produce player talent ratings based on the raw (non-normalized data? or does it normalize somehow before calculating the player talent ratings?) 2. what exactly is happening mathematically in recalculating league totals? 3. are any factors at all other than the raw data taken into account when deriving player talent ratings? 4. just how much do such talent ratings affect the results of the game? Are there instances where such ratings would somehow 'override' the fundamental core stats of the player...or are those ratings there simply for simplified (and more vague which is useful for 'scout' mode) referrence? A lot of this really started to occur to me when, upon importing the '78 season, the scouting report for Reggie Jackson said something about him not really being likely to amount to much of anything but that he has, though not great, some power. It makes me wonder if the reports and ratings are calculated based on the non-normalized data...and, of course, HR totals were much lower on average that year than we are used to in these recent years. 5. In general, is there any hope of ever having a posted write-up of how these things such as 'league totals, etc.' were made and what they do and how they impact the game? Is this simply a trade secret? Or does no one truly know how to give a good explanation of what it is other than: well, use it, tweak it, and trust that it'll work then... Is this asking too much for such an explanation of something so fundamental to the game itself? EDIT: Sorry about my tone in the last paragraph that I wrote before. OOTP5 and its 'crew' are awesome and I'm glad to have discovered them...I was simply growing frustrated with my attempts to understand...yet, getting no feedback on earlier posts even though I find it unlikely that this post has been un-read by 'those in the know' (or those who know 'those in the know') I know that OOTP5 is great with offering support and help and delivering a great product that very much takes into mind what its fan base wants...and, to me, that is a very commendable trait in a game company... but, I have also grown somewhat perplexed as to what is actually going on with a lack of response to my posed question. Please, if I have written my post in a way that is not understandable and clarification is necessary, please let me know. Also, if my post is considered to have obvious answers that I should know by now...please let me know that too. Or, if its a case that I HAVE in fact, posted an unreasonable question, please let me know. Or, if the answer is confidential due to 'trade secret' considerations...please press "7"...If, instead, those who have read this post who are 'in the know' don't have time to respond to such an indepth question at this time, please press "8",....If, however, this is a case where the answers need to be first sought out before an answer can be given, please press "9"...or to return to the main menu, please press "0" at any time. Last edited by baseballbob; 03-16-2003 at 11:12 PM.