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Originally Posted by jerrycapo
Sorry, I meant if a player is still being talked about fifty years later he is someone who is worthy of the hall of fame. By that standard I do not believe Dale Murphy makes the Hall of Fame.
True, Runs and RBI's are team dependant, but the Braves were a lousy team most of the time Murphy was playing for them, and he still outpaced everyone. Imagine the numbers he may have put up playing for the Yankees between 1994 and 2003. I would not say they are not a good indicator of a players value. They may not be the best indicator of a players value. I would venture to guess that the players who are at the top in OPS+ are also going to find themselves at or near the top of the other categories and vice versa over a ten year span. You may be able to have a fluke season and put up good stats in a category for a year and not really be an asset to the team, but for ten years and still do that.
So I can learn a little more, you say OPS+ is league adjusted. How is that adjustment made and is that adjustment applied over different era's.
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I'd say Murphy is a Hall of Famer. His best five seasons by OPS+ are 156, 151, 150 149, 142. Six WARP3 Seasons of 9.2 or better.
For reference, Billy Williams was elected into the Hall of Fame in 1987 with 86% percent of the vote. His top five seasons by OPS were 170, 157, 147, 147, 142 and had six seasons of 8.9 or better in WARP3.
Their peaks are very comparable but Williams had a better career.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/ab....shtml#opsplus