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bamf909 · 04-19-2002, 06:42 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Schmidty:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by bamf909:
I have to disagree. I think Ruth is one of the most overrated players ever. I can think of a number of players who i would much rather have on my team, (not even counting pitchers) including Josh Gibson, Cool Papa Bell, Willie Mays (whose defense alone makes him a far more valuable asset than Ruth), Johnny Bench, Ty Cobb, and Honus Wagner.<hr /></blockquote>Give me some facts to back up this statement.<hr /></blockquote>Josh Gibson- 84 home runs in one season, lifetime .373 batting average, 962 home runs in his only 17 year long career which was tragically ended when he was only 35. If he had played even 1 more year, he would have probably reached the 1000 homers mark.

Cool Papa Bell- .338 lifetime BA, but he must have been the fastest baseball player ever. Jesse Owens refused to race against him. Stole 175 bases in one season. Can you imagine the run production from him. He scored from first base on infield bunts. He also ran the bases on a wet field in 13.1 seconds, including 3.1 from Home to first.

Willie Mays-at an important fielding position, Mays was one of the best of the best. Add this to his offensive production, which rivals ruth's, and was in an era of supremely competitive baseball, as well as multi ethnic pitchers, with some variety, makes him (IMHO) the greatest major leaguer ever.

Johnny Bench- simply stated, th greatest defensive catcher in major league history, the greatest offensive catcher in major league history.

Ty Cobb- never tried to hit homers because he considered it unmanly. .366 career BA, just under 900 stolen bases.

Honus Wagner- I don't know what i was thinking when i posted him. I'm sorry. I must have been drinking.

04-19-2002, 06:42 AM	#15
bamf909 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: fargo, nd Posts: 34	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Schmidty: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by bamf909: <strong>I have to disagree. I think Ruth is one of the most overrated players ever. I can think of a number of players who i would much rather have on my team, (not even counting pitchers) including Josh Gibson, Cool Papa Bell, Willie Mays (whose defense alone makes him a far more valuable asset than Ruth), Johnny Bench, Ty Cobb, and Honus Wagner.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Give me some facts to back up this statement.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Josh Gibson- 84 home runs in one season, lifetime .373 batting average, 962 home runs in his only 17 year long career which was tragically ended when he was only 35. If he had played even 1 more year, he would have probably reached the 1000 homers mark. Cool Papa Bell- .338 lifetime BA, but he must have been the fastest baseball player ever. Jesse Owens refused to race against him. Stole 175 bases in one season. Can you imagine the run production from him. He scored from first base on infield bunts. He also ran the bases on a wet field in 13.1 seconds, including 3.1 from Home to first. Willie Mays-at an important fielding position, Mays was one of the best of the best. Add this to his offensive production, which rivals ruth's, and was in an era of supremely competitive baseball, as well as multi ethnic pitchers, with some variety, makes him (IMHO) the greatest major leaguer ever. Johnny Bench- simply stated, th greatest defensive catcher in major league history, the greatest offensive catcher in major league history. Ty Cobb- never tried to hit homers because he considered it unmanly. .366 career BA, just under 900 stolen bases. Honus Wagner- I don't know what i was thinking when i posted him. I'm sorry. I must have been drinking. __________________ save the expos!