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Originally Posted by bp_
BOTTOM LINE: OTTP 6.5 didn't let you put players with a major league contract in the minors without that player being on the 40-man roster.
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Right, but you could easily do this if your 40 man was full in order to get a freshly claimed player into the minors (in OOTP6.5):
1). Claim Joe Shortstop
2). Place Joe Shortstop on waivers and wait for him to clear.
3). DFA Tommy Ballgame (Who was on the 40 man, but is now not on the 40 man)
4). Put Joe Shortstop on the 40 man.
5). Assign him to whichever affiliate you want.
6). Remove him from the 40 man.
7). Put Tommy Ballgame back on the 40 man.
I did this constantly. In fact, I constructed the vast majority of my organization this way, as I decided, for purposes of challenge, *not* to initiate any trades or sign any free agents.
However, in the big leagues, since steps 3, 4, 6, and 7 are largely procedural they are omitted (I think). Either way the process should be as follows:
1). Claim Joe Shortstop
2). Put Joe Shortstop on waivers and wait for him to clear.
3). Outright (assign) him to whichever affiliate you want.
As for guaranteed or not guaranteed contracts, I think this depends on the nature of the deal. For example:
1). The Twins sign FA Joe Shortstop to a 1 year deal for $300K during the offseason.
2). The Twins promote Tommy Ballgame from AAA to make his Major League debut in June, keep him on the roster for July, and then demote him back to AAA in August.
My belief is that Joe Shortstop sees the whole $300K, even if you send him down during spring training. However, Tommy Ballgame only gets 1 months of paychecks at the $300K rate (Major League minimum), and the rest of his paychecks are at his minor league pay rate.
The bottom line is that this aspect of roster moves is pretty trivial, and Markus and company have bigger fish to fry at the moment. If this was changed back to the old OOTP6.5 approach of "If you are in the bigs for 5 minutes at any time during the season you get paid at least $300K all year, even if you get sent down or released." that would be fine with me.
The inability to either remove a player from your 40 man once he's cleared waivers (and thereby the ability to claim a player who has a big league contract and outright him to your minor league system without him permanently taking a 40 man slot), on the other hand, is the biggest outstanding bug in my opinion.
Solty