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Old 05-24-2006, 10:30 PM   #1
Malleus Dei
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Unless this is changed, I am not likely to be buying OOTP 2006

I know, I know...I shouldn't start this thread. I'm even breaking my own suggestion.

But right now I am appalled and aghast, and am very unlikely to be buying OOTP 2006.

Why?

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=118672

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw
So in looking through screenshots and league reports, I don't see anything along the lines of team loyalty, desire for winning team, consistency, popularity, injury rating, and the like.

I can certainly understand leaving out clutch performance and team leadership skills, but data regarding who a player prefers to sign with, how likely they are to be injured, and how much a team's popularity would suffer for trading away all of their popular players was pretty important stuff that added quite a bit of depth to the game beyond whether player X's contact rating was higher than player Y.

Do these ratings still exist, possibly as hidden values that can be referenced in various game interactions? If not, then I do not understand why they were taken out.
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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn
They are there, just hidden... you should get a sense for the ratings through the news/messages on the players.

The existence of hidden ratings will completely kill any historical rosters. They are DOA in OOTP 2006. Hidden ratings mean that you while you think you are creating Greg Maddux, you may actually be creating Jose Lima. While hidden ratings won't affect fictional and hobbit leagues, the existence of hidden ratings makes it impossible to accurately create historical players, which therefore makes it impossible to accurately create historical rosters.

Every single player rating needs to be visible and editable. Period. I literally cannot imagine what everyone on the inside was thinking to let this thing get off the ground, let alone allow it through. Someone claimed the other day that the beta testers represented all of the OOTP world. That's clearly total nonsense, because just so far I have seen three deal-breaking issues for the historical gamer: no in-game expansion, which kills long-term historical simming; no managerial record tracking, which kills the managerial aspects of historical gaming; and now, hidden ratings, which render the creation and play of historical rosters completely impossible.

What were you people *thinking*?
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