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Originally Posted by atarizx3
What is your opinion on retaliation for HBP's or brushbacks? Those have been around for 100+ years, with remarkably few occasions in which it was permanently "harmful" to the player (other than the immediate pain of the batter). I've always been in the camp of "baseball must police itself", when it comes to brawls, brushbacks and beanings. Luckily baseball has avoided the chaos part.
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I would never say that I
condone a player intentionally throwing at another player. Again, my reasoning for that is more because of the injury factor involved. More often than not a player isn't going to get seriously hurt -- but the possibility exists.
That said, I do
understand retaliation type stuff. Don't condone it, but it makes sense to me. And it's an entirely different beast than hitting a player because they did something else that you feel is wrong. The two just don't have as much of a meeting point as a retaliation pitch does.
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Originally Posted by atarizx3
IMO, the fast food/sports player injury analogy is a good one in theory. The concepts are there, and you're making sense. I understand that the pitcher holds a large amount of responsibility in hurling a ball period, whether it be at one's noggin or down the middle.
But my point is that these players have the VERY BEST physicians working on them when they get hurt, while Joe McBurgerFlipper has to wait in line in the ER for 4 hours, pay their $50 co-pay (if they even have insurance), and hopefully avoid being fixed by just some nurse practioner. So sure, the act of intentional injury is the same, but the effects of the injury are much different. Its a double standard I suppose, but that's my opinion.
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Yeah, it's not the greatest analogy in the world. But my point was more or less that, as major league baseball players, every player should have a mutual respect and understanding that their fellow players are working just as they are. Million dollar contracts or not, it's their job. And putting someone else's job in jeopardy is never kosher.
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Originally Posted by atarizx3
As an added point, I never approve of anyone calling someone else's statement "stupid", as you did above. Uninformed maybe. Ignorant possibly. But disagreeing with someone's point does not make it stupid.
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Ignorant might have been the better word, yeah. I just don't see how a person can glorify someone intentionally throwing a baseball at someone else's body at 90 MPH. To me, that thought is stupid.