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Originally Posted by jdw
Wow. I would think that if someone was going to cut this down to just one selection, it with be this guy:
ERA
1950-5-3.42
1951-5-3.19
1952-3-2.81
1953-3-2.52
1954-3-3.03
1955-2-2.45
1956-1-2.26
1957-1-2.09
1958-1-2.21
1959-3-2.96
He was an All Pro like clockwork back in the 50s when we did the annual year end ballots.
It's funny... but at the time, Bourbon Jr. was the more respected and highly thought of player than McMurray. I honestly doubt there would have been any moment in the 50s when, other things being equal, anyone would have been willing to part with Bourbon straight up for McMurray.
Other than perhaps Chris simply for the ancestor tie in.
I happen to be Teddie's #2 Fan behind Chris, and am happy he's on the path to the HOF. But Bourbon was on another planet in their careers.
John
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Well to be honest both are marginal however I feel that McMurray is more deserving.
Allen only has 206 career wins. He doesn't rank in the career top 25 in any statistical category. He had a couple of great seasons, but of all those great seasons he only won 1 POY award.
McMurray had the BOY award, Rookie of the Year, played tremendous defense
and ranks in the top 25 in career HR. One of the best First Basemen ever.
Allen is not one of the best pitchers ever. There's a lot of pitchers I would take before Allen.
During the era when he played guys like Simson, Sardina, Gwaltney and heck, even Helton were much better pitchers. Head and shoulders above Allen. Those guys belong in the Hall, not Allen.
This is the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of the Very Good or the Most Popular or the Hall of the Nice Guys.
Sorry but the numbers don't lie.