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Originally Posted by marc
I think he compares favorably to:
Ogden Wing
Just to name a few.
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Really?
Wing's OPS Leaderboards:
1948-3-.959
1949-3-.960
1951-3-.971
1952-7-.868
1953-1-.993
Tito Jr's OPS Leaderboards:
1940-9-.825
1950-10-.892
I use that simply as a quick and dirty. But pretty much anyone who followed the league in the late 40's and early 50s knows that Wing was one of the three best players in the NL. Wing, Chaucer and Howard. They were the great players in the period.
Tito wasn't even a great player, let alone one of the great.
Tito was Al Oliver... except with a lot better attitude. Good BA, mid-range power, indifferent to the BB. His SLG and OBP weren't anything to write home about.
Wing?
Hit for average:
Batting Average
1948-4-.333
1949-3-.348
1950-4-.327
1951-1-.361
1952-6-.312
1953-1-.358
Took walks:
Walks
1947-8-85
1948-3-99
1950-6-99
1951-6-97
1952-5-82
1953-3-84
1954-6-84
1956-9-80
Got on base:
On-Base Pct
1948-2-.431
1949-3-.417
1950-1-.423
1951-1-.455
1952-5-.396
1953-2-.441
1954-7-.389
Hit for *more* power, with a broadbase of 2B, 3B and HR along with that high BA to give him very good SLG:
Slugging Pct
1946-9-.476
1948-8-.529
1949-4-.543
1951-4-.516
1952-9-.472
1953-4-.552
All told, it put runs on the board:
XR
1946-6-99.5
1948-1-126.7
1949-2-121.0
1950-3-116.0
1951-1-120.5
1952-1-105.1
1953-3-115.5
1955-10-97.8
Three times leading the NL, and Top 3 every season between 1948-53.
Tito *never* finished in the Top 10 in XR.
Wing was a great player at his peak. And it wasn't a short peak.
Tito was a very good player at his peak. That's it.
Tito doesn't compare favorably with Ogden Wing.
If you don't believe me, drag Cards Frank into here. He'll tell you that Tito might be his favorite player ever, but he'll also tell you that Ogden was the best player on those Cards teams, and behind him would come Dunk and Grady once he hit his stride. Tito was back in the pack with guys like Cook.
John