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Originally Posted by marc
I think when we argue for Indiana as being "top 10", we mean that it is a top 10 program or a top 10 job. Sort of the way that Notre Dame is a top 10 football job even though until last year they had went basically a decade without being ranked in the top 10.
Let's face it, certain programs are always top 10 programs or jobs even if they aren't ranked in the top 10. For example, Washington State a few years back was a top 10 team, so should they have higher standards then Notre Dame or Penn State? No way.
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Agree 100% .... Penn St. had some real lean years but when you think top football institutions you still think Penn St.