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Aordolin · 11-30-2005, 10:54 PM

some of those people have admitted to putting the closer in both setup roles oe atleast one to get those results though. I dont consider that an acceptable fix. the facts are bullpen AI is garbage and next to worthless. The best pitchers do not necessarily get the most usage unless you use work arounds like putting pitchers in multiple positions on the charts which can be hit and miss anyway. Besides the fact then you end up with relievers with 120+ innings and others with almost nothing in a full season. Even in 6.12 which had the best results for save totals they were still not in line with real baseball numbers.

I went through this a while ago but basically simming 5 seasons in found that barring injuries closers were gettig in the 80-85% range. Where in major league baseball those totals are 90% min. yeah its close and I can live with it. My results are with 6.5 were more like 65% tops, after taking some suggestions from forums I managed to get it up to 75-80% but that is still too low. I think this is a problem especially in online leagues were you really dont have the control to just change settings. Think of it this way: while 80% maybe sounds alright, consider that in 162 season your probably going to end up with about 60 save chances on average. at 80% your looking at about 12 of those changes going to someone who is not being paid so to speak to do that job. The closer does not pitch every day, that is his job to get the tough outs. Unless the player is tired, injured, then he should be getting 100% of those chances.

Only thing that hacks me off about this the lack of offical aknowledgement of this problem. Alot more people have reported this issue than have said it doesnt exist. And I think this is a hell of alot more important of an issue than a 3rd party program not working with the game as well anymore. Yet there was not even a mention from Markus or another offical source about it. This issue was brought up 5 months ago, plenty of time to get this resolved before now. How about trying to interact with those of us with the problem to find out what WE are doing. I gave alot of information on what my settings were it should have been easy to replicate them. At least with some dialogue maybe we could have found a feasible work around. At the very least I would have expected some mention, hey we looked into it but couldnt replicate the problem, heres some suggestions to get the results you want or tough go back to 6.12.

11-30-2005, 10:54 PM	#20
Aordolin All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 586	some of those people have admitted to putting the closer in both setup roles oe atleast one to get those results though. I dont consider that an acceptable fix. the facts are bullpen AI is garbage and next to worthless. The best pitchers do not necessarily get the most usage unless you use work arounds like putting pitchers in multiple positions on the charts which can be hit and miss anyway. Besides the fact then you end up with relievers with 120+ innings and others with almost nothing in a full season. Even in 6.12 which had the best results for save totals they were still not in line with real baseball numbers. I went through this a while ago but basically simming 5 seasons in found that barring injuries closers were gettig in the 80-85% range. Where in major league baseball those totals are 90% min. yeah its close and I can live with it. My results are with 6.5 were more like 65% tops, after taking some suggestions from forums I managed to get it up to 75-80% but that is still too low. I think this is a problem especially in online leagues were you really dont have the control to just change settings. Think of it this way: while 80% maybe sounds alright, consider that in 162 season your probably going to end up with about 60 save chances on average. at 80% your looking at about 12 of those changes going to someone who is not being paid so to speak to do that job. The closer does not pitch every day, that is his job to get the tough outs. Unless the player is tired, injured, then he should be getting 100% of those chances. Only thing that hacks me off about this the lack of offical aknowledgement of this problem. Alot more people have reported this issue than have said it doesnt exist. And I think this is a hell of alot more important of an issue than a 3rd party program not working with the game as well anymore. Yet there was not even a mention from Markus or another offical source about it. This issue was brought up 5 months ago, plenty of time to get this resolved before now. How about trying to interact with those of us with the problem to find out what WE are doing. I gave alot of information on what my settings were it should have been easy to replicate them. At least with some dialogue maybe we could have found a feasible work around. At the very least I would have expected some mention, hey we looked into it but couldnt replicate the problem, heres some suggestions to get the results you want or tough go back to 6.12.