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Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera
I agree that it was "in spite of" Tice... but my point was that to say that he can't be truly evaluated until Tice is gone doesn't make much sense since Culpepper has performed with Tice in the picture.
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That's true, because I look at it this way: If Tice leaves (and a real coach comes in) and Culpepper still struggles, we can say it was because of Moss.
If Tice leaves and Culpepper is as good as he was last year, we can conclude Culpepper is just as good without Moss, or we can wonder how good he would have been with a real coach AND Moss.