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Originally Posted by Anachronism
I do find it funny that you suggest Marc was the one who was taking sly digs at people that he might not agree with, when you yourself do the very same thing in the last line of your post...
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Just to make clear, the last line wasn't a dig at anyone. I am glad that OOTP is stuffed full of hardheads that will dispute things to the bitter end, because otherwise we'd never get anything achieved. I also think that I may have misread your complaint, and for that I apologise. What I meant about the forums still going strong was something like this...
I'm glad that if I post something, people will argue with me about it, because it shows the forum really is alive. You may think I'm wasting precious posts, and I probably am because we both agree in substance that this new method is new and slightly scary, but it's good that people are willing to argue about the future of the game, the forum.
I fear that Markus is slipping further away from the knowledge base that once provided him with not only ideas, but implementations, of the game's engine. To see that on the ideas panel at the moment are four gentlemen, who are super knowledgeable about coding and baseball, but I think it's fair to say they are without (and I'm presuming) a real math-head, the role Craig Scarborough was meant to play, and this troubles me, because the engine is still wrong, stats-wise. I intend to make a fuss over it, and I think Marc's parallels to the CM community, a community many of us have spent a lot of time in, are really worrying - will one day the jewel of forum contribution to OOTP be a 'what is the most needed new feature?' poll, like CM have?
Our download centers are stuffed full of files that people, Henry foremost amongst us, have spent months of their lives creating - all the time people are creating new better utilities, going into the CSVs and extracting data. The model that is being proposed in this very thread is entirely different - the community is reactive to game developments, not active in offering the knowledge that can make these changes occur.
I have no doubt that OOTP7 will be a great, great game, of course (with a slightly worse interface
), just that it won't be as great as it could be, or it won't do what we want it to. Right now, every patch or expansion is a victory achieved by Markus and the community jointly. Let's go kicking and screaming, and try to convince SI that our model - that of a far stronger sense of shared knowledge than has been with CI - is far more fitting for a game that remains at the cutting edge of the baseball sim world.